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Racing or Moguls?

post #1 of 19
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My 10 year old (son) is already in the mogul team at Killington - he just got back from ramping at Lake Placid.

His younger sister (currently 6, will be 7 in September) has done 1 year with the Killington racing team (she was actually placed with a group of mostly 8 and 9 year olds, but she couldn't officially participate seeing as how she wasn't yet 7 due to VARA rules).

The freestyle coach wants her to move up to moguls this coming season, but I feel she should spend at least 1 more season in the racing program. The coach she had last year also wants her back.

I'm tending on putting her back on the alpine racing team, rather than having her step up to the freestyle team immediately. I want her to really get a good foundation of carver racing turns before she proceeds (although she already has a pretty good grasp of those)

Thoughts?

Here's the one video I took of her this past season, in a club race where she could enter (no VARA rules applied)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQENQad2sQ0

( the Youtube embedding wouldn't work for some reason )
post #2 of 19
1 vote for race.
post #3 of 19
2 votes for racing.
post #4 of 19
What does she want to do? If she enjoys the racing I say let her keep doing it. If she wants to start free style, let her do that. the bottom line is that regardless of what you want her to do, if she isn't happy doing it she won't continue to do it, and she certainly won't excel at it.

My thoughts are that she will be a better skier in the long run by sticking with racing... but I am biased since I am a racer.

BTW, was that a race run that you filmed because it didn't look like she went around any of the gates... For 7 she was skiing quite well, but completing the course is an important part of having good finishes.

Later

GREG
post #5 of 19
I vote race. It'll be better for her sking.
post #6 of 19
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Originally Posted by SkiDork View Post
Here's the one video I took of her this past season, in a club race where she could enter (no VARA rules applied)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQENQad2sQ0

( the Youtube embedding wouldn't work for some reason )
Hi:

My vote is for a few more seasons of race as well. Then when she indicates a desire on what she likes, maybe you should go with her preference.

By the way, was that video taken at Sugarbush? I was up there late March and watched some racers (young USSA types) going through a course/trail very similar to what was shown on your video.

CP
post #7 of 19
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Originally Posted by HeluvaSkier View Post
What does she want to do? If she enjoys the racing I say let her keep doing it. If she wants to start free style, let her do that. the bottom line is that regardless of what you want her to do, if she isn't happy doing it she won't continue to do it, and she certainly won't excel at it.

My thoughts are that she will be a better skier in the long run by sticking with racing... but I am biased since I am a racer.

BTW, was that a race run that you filmed because it didn't look like she went around any of the gates... For 7 she was skiing quite well, but completing the course is an important part of having good finishes.

Later

GREG
Yeah. that was her first ever race and she was confused about which gates to go around. In the afternoon run she did it right but I wasn't there to film it. BTW - she's 6 there.
post #8 of 19
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Originally Posted by CharlieP View Post
Hi:

My vote is for a few more seasons of race as well. Then when she indicates a desire on what she likes, maybe you should go with her preference.

By the way, was that video taken at Sugarbush? I was up there late March and watched some racers (young USSA types) going through a course/trail very similar to what was shown on your video.

CP

Actually that was on Bunny Buster at Killington
post #9 of 19
Thread Starter 
Myself and my wife are pretty much in agreement for at least one more year of racing too.
post #10 of 19
Irony---just when your body is as flexible as it is going to be....you race. And then when you want to or someone else wants to do moguls.....you start getting stiff.

That said, racing will build skills faster which will allow her to be a better freestyle...she will advance faster by not entering now.
post #11 of 19
Another vote for racing, to lay a better foundation for her technique.
post #12 of 19
$50 will get you a video of HeluvaSkier missing gates!

Race ......... but ..... one question has to be asked here and there is no easy answer.

Do you have support from the other half? With an age spread you will have kids going in two different directions. I know nothing about the freestyle circuit but race is divided into age groups.
post #13 of 19
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Originally Posted by Yuki View Post
$50 will get you a video of HeluvaSkier missing gates!

Race ......... but ..... one question has to be asked here and there is no easy answer.

Do you have support from the other half? With an age spread you will have kids going in two different directions. I know nothing about the freestyle circuit but race is divided into age groups.
The other half is actually the bigger die-hard ski fanatic. She pretty much hates losing any ski time to bring the kids to a competition. I OTOH don't really mind it.

Luckily there is another family with kids in the same programs, who's Mom as another big ski fanatic. So the 2 Dads will pretty much be schlepping the kids to their various ski competition events thoughout the winter.
post #14 of 19
I agree with everyone else here - have her run gates for one more season, then leave the decision up to her.
post #15 of 19
I'll jump on the racing bandwagon as well. I raced until my 2nd year of college, then focussed on moguls and I turned out relatively ok.
post #16 of 19
no pressure. moguls do help with quickness. why not free ski til 10?
post #17 of 19
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Originally Posted by The Cookie Monster View Post
no pressure. moguls do help with quickness. why not free ski til 10?
Because the kids racing programs start at 8:30
post #18 of 19
Gee, sounds like the "racers" have it! Count me there also. She will learn invaluable technical skills in a race program that will serve her well in any skiing situation, whatever she chooses to pursue. I hope she has the opportunity to benefit from some excellent coaching (not a given, I'm afraid, in any program, whether racing or freestyle).

Best regards,
Bob Barnes
post #19 of 19
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I agree with everyone else here - have her run gates for one more season, then leave the decision up to her.
Sorry, I must disagree.

Have her run gates until she is in her teens. Her very young age means she will be unable to pick up the vast majority of techniques that people think about when then they talk about racing.
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