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Difference between Adult and Junior ski's

post #1 of 21
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Can anyone tell me the difference between adult and junior ski's? The only answer I can find is that the junior ski's are shorter. I'm an adult beginner looking into buying recreational ski's. I am petite and don't like to go fast and am much more comfortable with a shorter ski. I am looking at a ski length of around 140-145 and was wondering if there was any reason not to consider buying the junior ski's since they are much cheaper?

Any responses would be greatly appreciated!
post #2 of 21
Well the question is l kinda ike how long is piece of string......

But generally speaking, junior skis are built lighter, ie designed for a lighter skier, they are narrower, relative to their length then a comparable adult ski.....my advice is buy a proper adult ski...if you find a juniour ski in the length, and longitudinal stiffness and width you want, odds are it will be too stiff torsionally....an adult ski will better suit your needs...but as always if on a budget, you are better to buy good, well fitting boots and good quality ski clothes.....

You dont need to be an expert to appreciate "warm, dry and comfortable"....

Then save money by buying a used pair of skis.....
post #3 of 21
This is a better alternative to kids gear at an affordable price.

http://www.levelninesports.com/dynas...cm-p-2159.html

This ski is easy to use yet will serve you well as you improve. Chances are that you may not need to buy another ski for a dozen years. This is more cost effective than buying a ski that you will outgrow quickly.

Michael
post #4 of 21
Related question...

At what point should the transition be made from junior to adult gear? I think my son is at the point where I would get adult equipment for him, but I'm not sure.
post #5 of 21
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Related question...

At what point should the transition be made from junior to adult gear? I think my son is at the point where I would get adult equipment for him, but I'm not sure.
Though size does matter, I think this depends more on skill.
Here is a 10 year old tiny little girl who's parents put her on Volkl Racetiger sc's(not jr skis), because her skills were improving at a rate that they didn't want to keep throwing money at youth gear, if they could get something that would stay with her for a few more years.

*sorry for the poor video quality
post #6 of 21
Jr. skis almost never work well for an adult. They are too soft for adult strength. Yes you will be able to ski them but won't be able to determine at what point they are holding you back and they will hold you back. There are many adult skis made that will work well for even a petite beginner and many ski company's are making some very nice carving skis that are softer longitudinally for a lighter woman.

Whatever you do do not buy a beginner ski. Get a good performance carving ski, take lessons and you will be skiing faster than you thought you would enjoy in no time.

Lou
post #7 of 21
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Originally Posted by trekchick View Post
Here is a 10 year old tiny little girl who's parents put her on Volkl Racetiger sc's(not jr skis), because her skills were improving at a rate that they didn't want to keep throwing money at youth gear, if they could get something that would stay with her for a few more years.
Did they throw money at lessons or training... I hope?
post #8 of 21
No way an adult race ski works properly for a 10 year old girl or boy. Is she skiing on it yes. Is it too stiff and holding her back. Absolutely for certain. Are the parents saving money. Depends how much they will have to spend having her unlearn bad habits taught by trying to turn those skis.
post #9 of 21
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Originally Posted by HeluvaSkier View Post
Did they throw money at lessons or training... I hope?
Nah, her brother is the one who's on the school ski team. She, just wants to know "Where's the party?"
post #10 of 21
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No way an adult race ski works properly for a 10 year old girl or boy. Is she skiing on it yes. Is it too stiff and holding her back. Absolutely for certain. Are the parents saving money. Depends how much they will have to spend having her unlearn bad habits taught by trying to turn those skis.
What he said.
post #11 of 21
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No way an adult race ski works properly for a 10 year old girl or boy. Is she skiing on it yes. Is it too stiff and holding her back. Absolutely for certain. Are the parents saving money. Depends how much they will have to spend having her unlearn bad habits taught by trying to turn those skis.
No argument here.
post #12 of 21
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Originally Posted by race510 View Post
No way an adult race ski works properly for a 10 year old girl or boy. Is she skiing on it yes. Is it too stiff and holding her back. Absolutely for certain. Are the parents saving money. Depends how much they will have to spend having her unlearn bad habits taught by trying to turn those skis.
Going back to my question...how about a 14 YO? Would the $$ be better spent on adult equipment (he's 5'6" or so now)?
post #13 of 21
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Originally Posted by hammer View Post
Going back to my question...how about a 14 YO? Would the $$ be better spent on adult equipment (he's 5'6" or so now)?
I have 3 children that are now young adults.

Most 14 year old's can use adult gear as long as the gear is forgiving.

My kids were on good Jr race skis or forgiving adult gear when they were 12-14. They did better on the Volkl all-mountain ski than on the Atomic Jr. racing gear.

I would recommend something like the Fischer RX6, Dynastar Contact 9, Elan Speedwave 12, Head XRC 800 or Monster 72...

Michael
post #14 of 21
Thread Starter 

Thanks!

Thanks so much for the help. Those dynastar's are a great deal. Thanks for all the info!
post #15 of 21
At 14 they are in the transition from jr. to adult. So depends on skill and skzie but many 14 year olds can handle adult equipment.
post #16 of 21
Along these lines: my son will be 13 in December ... currently on K2 Apache jr skis in a 153, which he loves. He is 5'6", 115 lb now; I figure he'll add another inch and 10 lb by the end of ski season.

I just bought a pair of Head Monster 77 chips in a 163 (Level 9 for under $300) -- I've been wanting something like this to replace my Volkl 5 Stars (pink), and I figure my son will grow into them in the next year or two. (And then I'll buy something else for myself. I have it all worked out )

Is this a decent ski for a transitioning junior? (He's a strong skier, lives in Colorado.)
post #17 of 21
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Originally Posted by segbrown View Post
Along these lines: my son will be 13 in December ... currently on K2 Apache jr skis in a 153, which he loves. He is 5'6", 115 lb now; I figure he'll add another inch and 10 lb by the end of ski season.

I just bought a pair of Head Monster 77 chips in a 163 (Level 9 for under $300) -- I've been wanting something like this to replace my Volkl 5 Stars (pink), and I figure my son will grow into them in the next year or two. (And then I'll buy something else for myself. I have it all worked out )

Is this a decent ski for a transitioning junior? (He's a strong skier, lives in Colorado.)
Does the ski match the terrain that your son usually skis on as well as his current ability?
post #18 of 21
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Does the ski match the terrain that your son usually skis on as well as his current ability?
Well, as far as I can tell, it does. I haven't skied it. I'm buying on the basis of reviews and past experience with a Head demo (but not this one). Everything sounded good, except it might be a little heavy. But by then, he should be stronger. He is at least a level 7 ... he skis everything at Copper (except Tucker, but that's because of the hike, not the skiing), with good technique.

I just wondered if anyone had actual experience on it, or something very similar, and had an opinion.

If it isn't appropriate, it's okay: the growing-into-it thing is also a good excuse for me to tell my husband when he wonders why I bought another pair of skis -- he doesn't quite get the quiver concept.
post #19 of 21
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Originally Posted by segbrown View Post
Along these lines: my son will be 13 in December ... currently on K2 Apache jr skis in a 153, which he loves. He is 5'6", 115 lb now; I figure he'll add another inch and 10 lb by the end of ski season.
I can't say enough good things about the Apache Jrs.

But I think you may be optimistic to think that a 5'6" 115lb 13 year old will be 5'7" at the end of the season. That was the year I went from 5'4" to 6'1" (and from 110 to 125 pounds . I still have the stretch marks.

Without knowing the Monster 77 specifically, the specs sound great. A gain of 12mm around the waist will give him enough additional float at his light weight that they should truly be a go anywhere ski. My only concern would be that it might be a little stiff for a 115-pounder to decamber.
post #20 of 21
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Originally Posted by segbrown View Post
Well, as far as I can tell, it does. I haven't skied it. I'm buying on the basis of reviews and past experience with a Head demo (but not this one). Everything sounded good, except it might be a little heavy. But by then, he should be stronger. He is at least a level 7 ... he skis everything at Copper (except Tucker, but that's because of the hike, not the skiing), with good technique.

I just wondered if anyone had actual experience on it, or something very similar, and had an opinion.

If it isn't appropriate, it's okay: the growing-into-it thing is also a good excuse for me to tell my husband when he wonders why I bought another pair of skis -- he doesn't quite get the quiver concept.
It sounds like a reasonable selection to me. I have skied a few recreational skis from head and found the majority to be pretty soft with the exception of the far ends of the spectrum (race stock stuff and 103's, etc). I think he will adjust to the weight. They might be tough at first but after a few days he won't even notice the weight.

Later

GREG
post #21 of 21
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Originally Posted by alpinedad View Post
I can't say enough good things about the Apache Jrs.

But I think you may be optimistic to think that a 5'6" 115lb 13 year old will be 5'7" at the end of the season. That was the year I went from 5'4" to 6'1" (and from 110 to 125 pounds . I still have the stretch marks.
I should have said "at least" an inch, etc. Yes, I'm aware that he will sprout up at any time. I'm not seeing any indicators that it is imminent, though. He has always been quite tall, but otherwise development hasn't been any earlier. I'm guessing it will be at least another 6 months or more. (I'm just hoping he catches up to his feet one of these days.)

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... My only concern would be that it might be a little stiff for a 115-pounder to decamber.
I agree; they aren't for his use THIS season ... unless he does grow like mad. He can stay on his Apaches for the upcoming year. If he does outgrow them, the Monsters will be waiting in the wings. Or, more specifically, on MY feet ...
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