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Giro Omen vs Giro Fuse

post #1 of 12
Thread Starter 
The Omen is slightly heavier and is marketed as a burlier helmet. CE EN 1077 and ASTM 2040F... the Fuse is (CE EN 1078 and ASTM 2040F)

Does anyone know or care to speculate how the Omen might stack up vs the Fuse for impact situations? 1078 is Skate and 1077 is Snow. Does anyone know about the real meaningfull difference between the 1077 and 1078?

I have a Fuse and love it, but it is broken. I love the full vent control on the Omen vs the Fuse and would love to have a burlier open face helmet for the days I don't want to wear my Remedy FF.
post #2 of 12
I have the Omen, Fuse and G10. The Omen is a much more substantial helmet, and has a fitting system somewhat like a hard-hat, where you turn the knob in the back and it tightens.

I've never found the Fuse to be a good east helmet as it's very light and the vent covers, even closed, are marginal if its cold out. As I found out the hard way, if it's snowing, put your hood over it, as water can leak in from the heat of your head. I made the mistake of opening it, and got the worst brain freeze I've ever had.

The Omen certainly looks funky, has a fantastic fit with Oakleys, and many other brands of goggles, too. It's bit pricy, but it has two rows of vents that can be opened seperatly to cool your noggin.

In any case, the G10 is the most comfortable of the lot, and seems to have at least the protection power of the Omen. Plus - if you time it right, you can get them cheap on SAC. I know you didn't mention the G10, but it maybe should be higher on your want list than the Omen.

Note that sizing is all-over-the-place. My Fuse and G10 are Large, but the Omen is medium,. and I have a fair amount of space in it.
post #3 of 12
Thread Starter 
My Fuse is a Medium... the Omens I tried on definitely needed to be a small.

All Giro top line helmets will have that knob-tightening fit system this year.

From my in-store examinations, the G10 doesn't have the sheer venting area that the Fuse and the Omen have. Venting, especailly the ability to rapidly and greatly change the venting, is key to me ecause I'll be using the helmet in the spring and on BC tours where I may be going from skiing to skinning to hiking quickly.

(I'm sure we agree that the Fuse's foam vent covers suck because they are inconvenient and easy to lose)
post #4 of 12
The best venting helmets I've used by a very wide margin were Leedoms (the Scream and Cut versions). And they don't have any external holes so the snow doesn't accumulate in them then become brainfreeze disasters.

I just counted and both the G10 and the Omen have 14 holes in them, of about equal size although the Omen has them closer to the surface. The G10 is more comfortable by a wide margin.

Best of luck on your choice.
post #5 of 12
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post #6 of 12
Snofun you need to ski places where the snow is drier - no problems with a Fuse in 2 weeks in Hokkaido after multiple head plants and snow that didn't stop falling. Also temps down to -20C (sorry can't think in F) with no warmth issues (and I have a shaved head!) I agree the foam vent covers are not the best idea.
post #7 of 12
From what I understand the omen is two separate plates for impact (front/back) where ad the fuse is just one overall? the omen definitely is a beefier helmet, and IIRC, the fuse is a "single impact" helmet, and the omen is a "multi-impact" helmet.
post #8 of 12
I am fairly sure that you will find that Giro recommend all helmets are single impact - not sure of definition of impact.

I found that all three had slightly different lasts so one would fit my head well (G10) but Fuse would not. Omen was not as light as G10 and I could not see the value in the additional cost expecially as I am not interested in the bluetooth headphone system.
post #9 of 12
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Originally Posted by malibu View Post
Snofun you need to ski places where the snow is drier - no problems with a Fuse in 2 weeks in Hokkaido after multiple head plants and snow that didn't stop falling. Also temps down to -20C (sorry can't think in F) with no warmth issues (and I have a shaved head!) I agree the foam vent covers are not the best idea.
No doubt dry is good, and I live on the Ice Coast where such things are a rarity, but the worst experience with the Fuse and wet snow was at Whistler, where each "flake" hit with a 10 lb (OK - 3Kg) thump. Open those vents up and it was like a shower of freezing water - hood up, and / or vents closed was the order of the day.

If you did a head plant with the vents open, then you know what making your head into a snowplow at 30mph feels like - not pleasant. Of my three Giro's, the Fuse is the one I like the least, except for spring skiing.
post #10 of 12
Thread Starter 
Never had a problem with the Fuse until it fell apart after 140 ski days.

I picked up an Omen for $100
post #11 of 12
I agree Snofun that any melt would be ugly in a Fuse. It was something I raised in the ski shop and was told at the time 'we have had no complaints' - what else. I am wearing a Fuse as I couldn't find anything else to fit my 63cm megahead.
Also the strap keeper on the back snapped off my helmet after about the 7th day of use as it did to my friends - no problem with Giro supplying a new one which seemed to be made of a different plastic.
As for impacts - what defines an impact anyway - a glancing blow from a low tree branch? A head slam on a misjudged landing on hard snowpack in a park? or a full-on head into a tree trunk incident?

I wish I had the money or time to let my Fuse fall apart from overuse Summit. In Aus $ that would have cost you about $1.64 for each day your head was protected - sadly most of my gear perishes from underuse rather than wears out....
post #12 of 12
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Originally Posted by malibu View Post
I agree Snofun that any melt would be ugly in a Fuse. It was something I raised in the ski shop and was told at the time 'we have had no complaints' - what else. I am wearing a Fuse as I couldn't find anything else to fit my 63cm megahead.
Also the strap keeper on the back snapped off my helmet after about the 7th day of use as it did to my friends - no problem with Giro supplying a new one which seemed to be made of a different plastic.
As for impacts - what defines an impact anyway - a glancing blow from a low tree branch? A head slam on a misjudged landing on hard snowpack in a park? or a full-on head into a tree trunk incident?

I wish I had the money or time to let my Fuse fall apart from overuse Summit. In Aus $ that would have cost you about $1.64 for each day your head was protected - sadly most of my gear perishes from underuse rather than wears out....
The Omen and the G10 have the same set-up, so keep the vents closed in wet snow, or, if you're real quick shut 'em down when you feel a header coming on.:

The Giro's all fit differently, with the Omen having the loosest fit (medium for me - large for the Fus ena d G10), but with the adjustable piece in back, it can probably be made to fit even a "megahead". In my opinion, it's the least comfortable of the lot though.

Careful if you want to add the headphones as they push on your ears with hard plastic after an hour or two, and taking the helmet off feels almost better than taking boots off at the end of the day.
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