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Bindings and tune degrees for new skis

post #1 of 7
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I have a new pair of '06' Metron 9's (2 years back) that will get mounted soon. They came with Neox 310 bindings (hope I got that number right); in any event it is the integrated system binding that came with the skis and plate.

I am wondering it if the newer Tix 4:12 System binding will work in this ski as I would rather have them. Anyone know if it will?

I am also going to have the BOF mounted directly over the CRS if it is only forward and inch or so.

Also, anyone know what the base and side bevel is on these as they come from the mfg? I thought I might have them tuned to 1 degree base and 2 degree bevel as a compromise to start. Any suggestions for an intermediate to advanced skier who will probalby get out a whopping 8- 10 times this year and who will stay on groomers 90% of the time and who wants to learn to carve more than slide towards the end their turns?

Should the tips and tails be detuned and by how much on each?

Many thanks,
Tom
post #2 of 7
Tbarb, when I read your post my first thought was to congratulate you on managing to get 4 good troll questions in one post!

So assuming these are serious questions:

What's wrong with the Neox 310's? They're a great & underated binding (although a tad heavy) & are ideally suited to that ski & your stated ability level. Unless you're skiing at a very high DIN setting (which would need 614 binding or higher) there's no point in changing. You can also easily adjust the fore/aft binding position on the Neox with the factory 'forward' setting probably being the most popular. If you want to really play aroud with the fore/aft position you can cheat the boot scale to put the bindings virtually anywhere you want (check-out http://www.jonsskituning.co.uk/content/view/35/50/ ).

All Atomic's come with a factory angle set-up of 1,3 (1 degree base edge angle & 3 degree side edge angle) so just leave them at that as it's a great edge set-up giving excellent edge hold with no loss of durability.

No need to detune either as the skis are already short & with a 1 degree base edge shouldn't be 'grabby'. In the unlikely even that they do feel grabby then rather than detuning/dulling the edge at the contact point with the snow, just add a tad more base edge angle at the contact point to enable the edge to engage more gradually but still to have bite once it is engaged.
post #3 of 7
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spyderjon- well , thanks for the benefit of any doubt and you hit every question with an answer! I'm no troll, but on the edge of understanding a lot of this stuff. The new skis gives me a chance to start anew albeit with a better start, although I don't want to out fox myself -something I inevitabley do when I keep on tinkering to find the edge ...then I fall off.

So from your reply I am presumming you are saying I should ski them as they arrive from the factory as is. Only waxing is needed. Did I get it right?

I'll read the link you provided in a moment but could you expand on your comment. "You can also easily adjust the fore/aft binding position on the Neox with the factory 'forward' setting probably being the most popular."

Thanks
post #4 of 7
Tbarb, the Atomic factory edge tune is usually very good so yep, just give 'em a wax (the more the better & ideally with a hot scrape clean first) & you're good to go.

The Neox bindings have a choice of being positioned at either the 'central' position or the 'forward' position which is slightly further along the rail towards the tips of the skis. Most seem to like the forward position better as it gives better turn initiation but it's not so far forward as to cause tail wash-out etc.

Get your supplier to set up the bindings on the forward position & if you want to try the central position follow the instructions on my link.

BTW, although the Tix binding is new the Neox is still a current model (for 07/08) & is a higher spec binding, ie Atomic supply the top couple of skis in each range with Neox's & the lower models with Tix's.
post #5 of 7
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Originally Posted by spyderjon View Post
The Neox bindings have a choice of being positioned at either the 'central' position or the 'forward' position which is slightly further along the rail towards the tips of the skis. .... BTW, although the Tix binding is new the Neox is still a current model (for 07/08) & is a higher spec binding, ie Atomic supply the top couple of skis in each range with Neox's & the lower models with Tix's.
Jon, thanks for clear, helpful info here and on your site linked below.

I just received new Atomics (Izor 9:7), which come with the 4Tix(4-12) bindings. I had intended to set slightly forward of center, but don't see any way to adjust that positioning. The mounting rail is already pre-mounted at factory, and there appears to be only one socket for the single center mounting screw.

Am I missing something? Or is the Tix not capable of being positioned anywhere other than dead-on the factory pre-set center?
post #6 of 7
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.....is the Tix not capable of being positioned anywhere other than dead-on the factory pre-set center?
Haven't seen a Tix in the flesh but from the image in the Atomic 07/08 Dealer Manual it looks like there's only one fixed position.
post #7 of 7
The 4Tix is a plastic lower level binding. It isn't near the binding that the Neox is. Do not change. As far as the tune, the factory specs are the best for the Metron, period.
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