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ok here is some video I had the privilege of shoting this past winter.

alittle background here, skier is 7 years 1 month old and had no pole plants to 2 days before this video. 50 day a year skier with 80 percent of those days coming from MRG. At this point knowing up and lower body seperation is kinda of futile at this age.

1.What else can be worked on here?

2. Can a kid(this young) ski powder and stay forward?
post #2 of 13

Very impressive

LOL, if you cannot teach adults (16y and up) how to stay forward in powder dont even dream about making a 7y old do it.

On the other hand, she is so light that she kind of lacks the momentum and force you need to stay submerged in a forward position. She is skiing great for her age.
post #3 of 13

7 yr old

As she said, "Awesome", leave her alone she's haveing a great time and skiing very well.
post #4 of 13
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FYI I will be honest the kids parents know it, there wasnt any teaching beside tactics that day. Leaving alone and having a great time was what that day was about.

the 2 questions are hypothetical
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the 2 questions are hypothetical
Ok, hypothetically...

Why should we assume a 7 year old can't conceive of the idea of upper and lower body separation? This kid absolutely rocks. What would happen if she started to use a bit of separation? Is there a way to teach her the idea?

Also, I noticed that she used pole plants quite well in one clip but not much in the other. Could you provide positive feedback to her when she uses them that might influence her use of poles?

The kid just rocks!!!
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Ok, hypothetically...

Why should we assume a 7 year old can't conceive of the idea of upper and lower body separation? This kid absolutely rocks. What would happen if she started to use a bit of separation? Is there a way to teach her the idea?

Also, I noticed that she used pole plants quite well in one clip but not much in the other. Could you provide positive feedback to her when she uses them that might influence her use of poles?

The kid just rocks!!!
this was group leson with mostly older boys and girls, although she could kick their butts anywhere the upper and lower body seperation I taught, stuck with them(10-14) but not with her.

The way I tried to teach it was a game a I call target practice. pole held upside down forming a X. and elbows locked to your side. I will pick out something and tell them thats what we got to shoot and we cant let our target ever leave that spot. They do this while trying to make complete longer radius turns. For the groups it work good, usually telling teens its there bro/or sister in the class they are targeting at get good results. In a private I am sure I could find something that would better relate to her, with that said she understood the concept, but IMO just wasnt there yet. I am curious what the other kids teach on here have to say, it will help me and I know she is coming back next year for privates.

it not shown in the video but she was capable of side to side to seperation when things got harder pack, it jsut her upper body allways followed her lower body in rotary movements

The only kid(this age) I have ever seen with upper and lower body seperation is Bridger Gile, and he just got that in the past year, and truthfully it doesnt look very refined yet. so possiable just improbable


on the pole plants

First day i had a lesson with her she didnt pole plant at all.....

also with me its not just pole plant, but a pole plant with out moving down the hill is pretty worthless. Lucky me she already had a movement down the hill but no pole plant. Pole plant were taught and reinforced whenever she did them. They where also mentioned whenever we started off the lift cause that was the primary focus before our "fun day".
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Pole plant were taught and reinforced whenever she did them. They where also mentioned whenever we started off the lift cause that was the primary focus before our "fun day".
Props to you BWP!
post #8 of 13
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Why should we assume a 7 year old can't conceive of the idea of upper and lower body separation? Is there a way to teach her the idea?
Why does she need to 'conceive of the idea?' Teach via movements and sensations.
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Why does she need to 'conceive of the idea?' Teach via movements and sensations.
I'm in agreement with you. I've noticed that many instructors state that young pups can't achieve certain things and yet I've seen them do it. Don't know why that is.
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I'm in agreement with you. I've noticed that many instructors state that young pups can't achieve certain things and yet I've seen them do it. Don't know why that is.
Kids are different. They have different kind of talents and develop skills individually. They also dont lissen to you the same way an adult (sometimes) does, they dont understand certain words and they get bored very quickly if nothing happens; while you talk nothing happens. BPA does the right thing by keeping formal teaching to a minimum and letting them play and have fun insted.
post #11 of 13
You've definitely got the little kid teaching thing down, which isn't easy. Darned kid is skiing powder on a steep Snowbird run I give her credit just for that!
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Why should we assume a 7 year old can't conceive of the idea of upper and lower body separation?
Max,

You should read up on the C.A.P. model. This is a quick overview, there is quite a bit more to it. It's not that they cannot conceive it, it's that their physical development isn't far enough along for them to really achieve it.

Josh,

What I would work on, and i'm sure you know this, is "disclipine" of the hands. And by disclipine I simply mean keeping them forward. But given that she had just learned pole touches 2 days before, then I can see where the "wildness" of the hands comes from. My idea here is by keeping the hands moving forward, I hope that the torso will follow.

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The way I tried to teach it was a game a I call target practice. pole held upside down forming a X. and elbows locked to your side. I will pick out something and tell them thats what we got to shoot and we cant let our target ever leave that spot. They do this while trying to make complete longer radius turns. For the groups it work good, usually telling teens its there bro/or sister in the class they are targeting at get good results.
I've done that with adults too (but not in many years...)
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Awesome!
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