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post #1 of 26
Thread Starter 
I'm one of those who generally follows World Cup skiing closely only one out of every four years. So, heading into the Olympics, how does the U.S. look? Can Rahlves realistically win gold? Does Mosely have a chance after his three years of playing in the terrain park? Is Picabo back in the game? Who else should we watch?

For that matter, I'd be interested in hearing about other teams as well...the Canadians? the Austrians?
post #2 of 26
From what I've heard, Rahlves skied extremely well down in South America (have you seen Jonathan Selkowitz's picture in the newest Powder of Rahlves down in Chile?). I think he *has* to be considered a Super G favorite.

I heard Picabo was coming on very strong at the end of last spring. If she can stay healthy and strong, I wouldn't count her out. She's a big-race kind of person.

Watch to see if Resi Steigler makes it onto the women's team. She's Pepi Steigler's daughter, is either 15 or 16, and has made it onto the Development Team. I guess she's enormously talented and *loves* to go fast. This season is probably too soon for her, but keep an eye on her.

Bob
post #3 of 26
Maybe the recent upsurge in patriotism and home-court psychological advantage will inspire miracle-level performance from the USST. Or maybe the Austrians and other race-bred monsters will feel sorry for us because of 9/11.

Or maybe we'll get stomped as usual. We can't do much but cheer them on!
post #4 of 26
If Maier was a gold medal hopeful then Daron has to be as well (DH,SG). Rahlves beat Maier in a number of races in the latter portion of the season. he has got to be on a high from that kind of performance. Chad Fleischer is not far off from Daron's Ranking either.

Erik Schlopy has been coming on of late though I have not followed his results with as much interest as I have Rahlves'. I think he is ranked 4th in GS and in the top 20 slalom. Kristina Koznick is around 5th (slalom) or 6th, Sarah Schleper 11th in slalom. There are more U.S. Athletes who have been getting result that haven't done it consistently enough to be very high in the overall FIS rankings. Additionally, U.S. Skiing athletes seem to have a randomly phenomenal ability to come out of the woodwork and kick ass out of nowhere for the Olympics every now and then, so who knows. I thinkt he U.S is looking all-right. In term of peak performance management, a number of them seem to be on an upward trend without having topped out yet. I think it will at least be exciting, with our team right in there as far as times.

The Austrians really have something to prove after their miserable showing at the World Championships last season. I expect them to come on with terminator-like determination.

Here is a link to an FIS rank listing engine. It's kinda cool.
http://internal.ussa.org/aps/public/Pointslist.asp?SportCode=ALP&HiddenPoi ntType=FIS&rbPointType=FIS

<FONT COLOR="#800080" SIZE="1">[ October 17, 2001 05:18 PM: Message edited 1 time, by Roto ]</font>
post #5 of 26
Anyone know Koznick's status?
post #6 of 26
Looks like the U.S. Women have a better chance of pulling out something than the men. In the top 15 standings in SL, SG, GS & DH the American men have 2 places, women have 4. Austrians have . . . don't ask!
post #7 of 26
This could be an awsome Olympics for the US. The US ski team seems to peak (pun!) at the right time.

The US Freestyle team looks really strong. Moseley had a tough time back on the WC last year, but still managed a second place. Travis Ramos and Toby Dawson both won WCs, and Evan Dibvig placed second way too many times. Hannah Hardaway won two WCs, and is my pick for mogul gold at Salt Lake. Ya gotta love her, a blonde hottie who throws helis in the bumps. Of course, she will be backed up by the veterans Battelle, and Weinbrect. Hard to count Donna out, as she is the most successful US skier ever in international competition (46 WC wins?). Eric Bergoust will be defending his Olympic Gold, and is the WC aerials champ. Last year's WC runner up Joe Pack, and Brian Curret round out a very strong US field.

Things look promising on the alpine end too. Picaboo won a Super Series Downhill last year, beating Kostner, Gerg, Dorfmeister, Cavagnoud, Goetschl, Etc... I think she will be back in a big way this season. Kirsten Clark won a WC downhill, and the downhill portion of the combined at World Champs. The mens speed team led by Rahlves and Fleischer was pretty hot last year also. It actually seems like the alpine team has some real depth, and there are quite a few that could breakthrough at any race. Schleper, Schlopy, Miller.. who knows? American skiers always seem to rise to the occasion at the Olympics, hopefully, they will continue the trend at SLC.
post #8 of 26
One nice thing about championship events (unless you are an Austrian) is the Nation quota. This will increase anybodys odds, specially in the men's speed events. As for those who had good WC results last year I understand they have been training well. I also I heard Bode Miller was skiing fast so he has recovered in time. Without Hermann and Buraas there will be a little less competition also. Relative to US skiers, in addition to those medal candiates mentioned by others, I think Megan Gerety may have a good chance. If not for a mistake near the finish in last years SG in St Anton, she would have had a medal, maybe even gold.
post #9 of 26
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Herman:
Anyone know Koznick's status?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Ya, last i heard she's doing her thing, her way, I kind of like that...alot! GO USofA!
post #10 of 26
I met Evan Dibvig at Killington last year. Great kid. Hope he wins something. He had really bad luck 4 years ago when his ski came off of the binding during his first run, and they did not give him a make-up run. He is determined to kick butt this time.
post #11 of 26
As much as I'd like to think the U.S. ski team can bring home some Gold, I personally don't think the talent or the dedication is there. The ski sceene for the U.S skiers is too much of a party atmisphere. I do think the past events of 9-11 will push our atheletes a little harder though which might help. I just want to see the games being held in complete safety, with no one hurt by ******* radicals and terrorists. Pray!
post #12 of 26
If the U.S. promoted wintersports even half as much as more traditional athletics, we would most likely steam roll the rest of the world.

As it stands, though, if you don't have a wealthy family to fund the effort, you're pretty much hosed.

We miss out on a ton of talent simply because the kids can't afford the gear or the trips.

I wouldn't be surprised if 99% of European babies are born with skis boots on! Their winter athletes are worshipped much like our mainstream athletes.
post #13 of 26
Yeah - it has nothing to do with patriotism, its just realism to recognize that except for the Mahre Brothers brief golden appearence twenty years ago . . . the only thing you can count on in the Winter Olympics is us getting stomped like narcs at a biker party! :

We often get a flash in the pan who will win a gold or silver in one event, or maybe even two . . . but meanwhile these countries that are smaller than many of our states are consitantly walking away with 6-10 medals!

Why, well - follow the money. In this country the money is to be found in Basketball and Football.

I think if Michael Jordon had been raised on skis, he would have been a monster! But Americans just don't care about skiing. We may have mountains, but we are not really an "Alpine Country".
post #14 of 26
Yes, I saw Moseley at training last spring and tho' I don't know what his competition looks like he didn't look like there were any problems. And the US freestylers have a better record than the mainstream racers, from what I understand.
post #15 of 26
I talked to Koz at Lutsen last spring. I think her heads in a good place. That's what she needs.
Schleper was beating her there though.
post #16 of 26

I just wanted to point out that every single person who posted in this thread displays a shocking ignorance about all sorts of important events that happened after late 2001.

post #17 of 26

7 and a half years between posts - is that a record?

post #18 of 26

 

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7 and a half years between posts - is that a record?

 

whats really amazing is i was 17 when SLATZ posted.

 

 

 

post #19 of 26

 

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Originally Posted by SKI-3PO View Post

7 and a half years between posts - is that a record?


What I find more surprising is that he bumps a 7 year old thread to berate the posters! And he doesn't even really explain what he's talking about.
 

 

I blame the helmet threads, they are driving people crazy.

post #20 of 26

As one of the original posters, I'm pretty proud of how wrong I was.

 

If I remember right (too lazy to look up any of the results from the '02 Olympics), Picabo was pretty much a disappointment although she was VERY fast in the training runs for the downhill.  My other pick, Rahlves, was sort of nowhere to be found, I think.

 

Oh, well.

 

I'm patting myself on the back because we're ALL above average and, darn it, I *LIKE* me.

 

post #21 of 26

sjjohnston

I have always thought your posts were very insightful. What happened?  You go back and read a post from 7-1/2 years ago and call all posters ignorant?  I am puzzled a to what you are trying to say.

post #22 of 26

 

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Originally Posted by Bob Peters View Post

As one of the original posters, I'm pretty proud of how wrong I was.

 

If I remember right (too lazy to look up any of the results from the '02 Olympics), Picabo was pretty much a disappointment although she was VERY fast in the training runs for the downhill.  My other pick, Rahlves, was sort of nowhere to be found, I think.

 

Oh, well.

 

I'm patting myself on the back because we're ALL above average and, darn it, I *LIKE* me.

 


Rahlves switched skis at the last moment, whether it was nerves or whatever, it was probably a mistake.  After starting fast, he got totally launched off Flintlock jump, barely made the next gate & never really got back on his line.  I think he ended up 12th.
 

 

I believe Street won the Super Series event the previous season on the Wildflower course.  When it came to the Olympics, the womens DH was postponed by one day due to winds.  The following day the race began later than expected & it was warming up by the time her start in the 20's came up.  It had gotten warm & on the crucial turn in the steeps on Glacier bowl she got wide into the soft snow, all was lost.

 

So in reality Bob, you were completely right, it was the racers & circumstances that worked against your predictions.

 

No one in this thread even mentioned Janica Kostelic, by far the Queen & star of the Alpine events (3 golds & a silver), but who would have guessed.

 

Also Bode Miller was only mentioned once, & ended up with 2 silvers after a spectacular comeback in the combined (he wasn't quite a speed event skier at the time).  He was only a small margin in 2nd after the first run in the regular slalom, & probably only needed to finish the second run to win.  Alas, he pulled the proverbial DNF only a few gates into run 2 & got nothing.

 

JF

post #23 of 26

 

Janica's olympic steak:

 

JF

post #24 of 26

 

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What I find more surprising is that he bumps a 7 year old thread to berate the posters! And he doesn't even really explain what he's talking about.
 

 

I blame the helmet threads, they are driving people crazy.

Nah, blame the end of the season blues.

What I find surprising is that this end of the season has hit particularly hard so many of us.

 

post #25 of 26

FWIW:

 

It was supposed to be a not-all-that-subtle mockery of the increasing tendency of people to re-open old threads, and to respond to posts made years ago as if the poster were eagerly awaiting a now irrelevant answer.Apparently more subtle than I thought.

 

See, to be shocked that people don't know things that haven't happened yet is, well ... kind of absurd. No? Perhaps people are becoming inured to absurdity?

 

 

post #26 of 26

Was I the only one that got this?

 

Telling people that they don't understand what happened after 2001 when the LAST POST WAS IN 2001.

 

Y'all got trolled.   Hard and fast.   

 

I lol'd.

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