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Marker 14.0 Comp

post #1 of 22
Thread Starter 
I was considering mounting the Marker 14.0 Comp on my new public enemies 179. I was going to mount them flat, no riser plates. Or should I mount with a plate. Primarily to be used 'all mountain'. Or should I just stick with a Rossi/Look binding.
post #2 of 22
Hah. Don't come looking here if you want support for a marker binding .
post #3 of 22
Dont mount those markers if your going to mount marker get some jesters....

stick with look
Px12Tis are FAR superior than a Marker 14.0.
post #4 of 22
As usual you'll get all kinds of opinions here. I prefer the Marker 14.0 over the PX binding. I use both, and I like the Marker better.
post #5 of 22
Thread Starter 

concerns

Some of the 'issues' I'mm concerned with.

Catching the brakes on turns with a low riser.
Pre-releasing on the Markers.
Lost windows and cracked risers on the Looks.

I weigh 220lbs, and although I say all mountain, I do like to do some jumps in the moguls. Occasionally, I'll hit some tables in the terrain park, landing hard and flat on the hardpack.
post #6 of 22
Ask Bushwacker what he thinks of markers again, go ahead poke him.
He has a very strong opinion, and I'm sure he'll share it with you.

Epic is extremely knowledgeable about ski gear. I'd trust his judgment without being too critical of any one mfgr.

Bushwacker, love ya dude........Hows the face healing?
Did you really crash on a bike of did you tell a marker lover that his bindings suck? :
post #7 of 22
Thread Starter 

opinions

I ran across this review, might be interested.
http://www.epinions.com/content_165747461764
post #8 of 22
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Originally Posted by Johnnys Zoo View Post
I weigh 220lbs.

this comment answers your question. Don't use the Marker.

I have never had a problem with a Marker binding. I weigh 140 and ski DIN 11 on the Comp 14.

Markers are great for lighter people but fail horrible when used with a heavier person.

Buy the Look.
post #9 of 22
Thread Starter 

the back nine

Hey Wacker, Bob Barker called, he says he loves Marker bindings and wants to meet on the back nine. What'd ye say?
post #10 of 22
Thread Starter 

911

Trekchick, He's not responding, might want to call in the paramedics.

post #11 of 22
^ those arent px bindings....

MY little marker story ....

I always thought the marker suck was just BS but I nevered owned a pair of them before..untill april of 06.

Just came out to snowbird and trying to freeski with maggots on 162cm Metrons, being horriably outguned by longer,straighter, fatter skis. Solution.
bought some 183cm gotama demos they came with marker bindings comp 14.0 to be excact. The skis rocked, they let me go so much faster than before and just bulldoze though any bit of weird snow. Then came a powder day.. The ski when kept to reasonable speed limit where doing awesome, but my first runs with the local TGR guys would be bad. First prerelease was in the cirque run out up nacho hill I hit a compression and my ski flys off. I keep it together and stop on one ski.

Next run silver fox everyone is charging, I am trying my best to keep up. Hit a ice bump under the new snow above rock chute. ski flys off but there is no saving it this time, I go tumbling down a large section of vertical lucky not to hit anything on silver fox.

I Din a 10.0 the ski were set at 10.0 forward pressure was set by a very knowledgeable shop, but there would still prerelease. I had the shop turn the din up to 13.0 and signed waiver saying they werent the cause of any injuries. The ski held on slightly better but would still prerelease on hard compressions at speed, just not as much. Now though they would come of in slow speed twisting falls. It was like playing russian roulet on the slopes.

This past season the bindings started to have very loose pieces tons of play, and they were recalled, my local shop replaced mine with non Demo Marker Comp 14.0. You would of thought the problems would of gone away, they didnt no being even a better skier than last year I was afraid to ski on my beloved Gotamas. I bascially didnt ski them for a month while I was out enjoying my PE with Px12tis.

I SAC another pair of Px12Tis for the gotamas and couldnt be happy with that binding, its stays on all the time except in hard falls. Transfers energy very efficiently to the ski, and overall has held up to my abuse.

The problem with non duke or jester consumer markers right is the biometric toe. Mounted flat on a ski(never had a problem with system skis), the toe upward release when ever the ski flexex deeply. For instance hitting a bump at speed, skiing powder fast, jumping off cliffs, and various other situations where the ski is decambered alot.

Marker itself is not a dumb company, they designed the P18 heel piece, and have 2 new binding coming out that should be bomber. The biometric toe piece IMO is probably safer for the average recreational skier, it release very easily, most people want that. But for me or for most on this board the risk of a fall at speed due to a binding releasing could mean injury or death. Just look at my how fast can i ski thread, no way in hell i would be going that fast on markers.

Before anyone brings up tons of pros ski on markers with no problem, first release pros skier get anything they want and those binding cant release upwards in the toes, its totally different designed but still marked "comp 14.0 or comp 16.0" When I took runs with ingrid here markers were not the consumer they werent even the race stock they were one off 14 din binding that marker makes for their factory riders.

remember I had no preconceived notions about marker my thoughts are based on personal experince.
post #12 of 22
Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnnys Zoo View Post
Hey Wacker, Bob Barker called, he says he loves Marker bindings and wants to meet on the back nine. What'd ye say?
Bushwacker, something tells me you and Johnny are going to be very good friends.

post #13 of 22
Thread Starter 
Man, thats great. I was leaning toward the Looks anyway. You all pushed me over. I can get a cheaper price on the Markers. But, the Looks sound like a better deal overall.

This makes me a little worried though. I just ordered the 186 Nordica Afterburners with the Marker X-balance system. Anyone have problems with this Marker?

Bushwacker, keep your hands up OK?

Trekchick, Very nice!

post #14 of 22
I have some 14.0's on my race sks, not one issue. IMHO current Markers are suffering fron a bad rap from previous generations. I wouldn't hesitate putting a 14.0 on any of my skis.
post #15 of 22
Phil:

Which generation would you stop at? And reasons for this would be greatly appreciated.

CP
post #16 of 22
Thread Starter 
I can only say that the problems I have had with bindings have been minor. I have experienced pre-releases on Marker, Look, and Salomon bindings. All except the salomon was 'fixed' by cranking the DIN down another notch. I was just too powerful/heavey for that particular binding. I have broken a plate on the nose of an old Salomon 737 equipe. The binding worked fine, even without the broken piece.

I have experienced problems (none recent) with brakes grabbing the snow when making mach snell bomber turns.

Perhaps my significant other is making me paranoid. She is convinced that I will perish in an avalanche, or fall into a bottomless crevice.

Frankly, Wackers little story has me hestitant. As do the stories of the old MRR bindings. I removed them from my troublemakers by the way.

So, what to do?
post #17 of 22
Quote:
Originally Posted by lloyd braun View Post
Markers are great for lighter people but fail horrible when used with a heavier person.
I weigh 200 and ski 8.5 on the M14.0.
post #18 of 22
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Originally Posted by CharlieP View Post
Phil:

Which generation would you stop at? And reasons for this would be greatly appreciated.

CP
M51 type series. Simply shorter wings and limited elasticity produced pre releasing. I think the Logic series is when they improved. Someone more familier with Marker should chime in.
post #19 of 22
Phil:

Thanks. Will note this, since I often like to cheap out and get used bindings.

CP
post #20 of 22
Quote:
Originally Posted by Philpug View Post
M51 type series. Simply shorter wings and limited elasticity produced pre releasing. I think the Logic series is when they improved. Someone more familier with Marker should chime in.
Logic 2 not Logic 1, IMHO, and they lost a bit of weight as well.
post #21 of 22
Comprex:

Thanks. Maybe we should get together at Whitetail and make a few turns this season.

CP
post #22 of 22
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Originally Posted by epic View Post
I weigh 200 and ski 8.5 on the M14.0.

there is always an exception......
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