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What "IT' is?

post #1 of 25
Thread Starter 
At the very end of last season, I was skiing with two dear friends for a week of the finest spring conditions Colorado has to offer. One of the two companions is very much of the same mind and ski ability as myself. i.e. Any run with snow on it is fine.
The other person in our party is an enthusiastic skier, but expressed many preferences as to which conditions were "better". This persons' ability allows them to ski the entire mountain, but they just didn't appear to be having as much fun. (completely subjective I know).
As the two of us were doing a bit of "catch up" waiting, I remarked that our other companion had all the technique and plenty of snow time, but expressed a need for something more. Lessons?, practice?, ... a break through.
Watching our third companion descending, my friend commented " he just hasn't felt it yet".

So what do you know "IT" to be?

For me, it is when the patterns of skiing are so familiar to the corporal "me" that it lets ME suggest the direction of the flow of events and allows the resulting action to occur without inner dialog. Some where the word "confidence" shows up, but I cannot make a meaningful sentence around that word.

Thoughts and ponderings?

Fuel to the fires of the pending season? (for us in the north anyway Ant et. al.)

CalG
post #2 of 25
"Well, I think it all depends on what the meaning of IS is."
post #3 of 25
As the one who rarely has "IT" allow this small offering:
It is feeling at one with the snow, not challenged, no threat or working at finding center. Flowing and dancing in moment to moment happiness at being here..now. [img]smile.gif[/img]
post #4 of 25
What a great post, Cal. Interesting to think about what the "ME" you're referring to is, because its certainly not (I _think_) what most people think of when they say "Me". A great teacher used to refer to what you are talking about as "confidence beyond hesitation."

And Ryel, I thought your mentions no challenge was really interesting. Because "it" is a challenge and "it" isn't, I think. It isn't a challenge because it doesn't seem like work; it doesn't seem like something you are fighting against. It is a challenge though, because you have to stay with it, work with it. You are both completely relaxed (as you said not threatened) and at the same time you don't miss anything...

[ October 28, 2002, 08:21 PM: Message edited by: Lodro ]
post #5 of 25
It is joie de vivre.
post #6 of 25
I'm with Nolo

Then the other thing you were trying to describe is what my climber brother called 'being in the zone'. It is something we used to try to do when fencing - consciously choose what to do & then JUST LET THE BODY DO IT - no interference from up top. It requires TRUSTING your body.

I have a (female) instructor friend who swears that so many women 'struggle' with skiing because they have not learned to love their bodies.
What do you think Nolo?
post #7 of 25
'It' is the Russian wolf fur lining of your Bogner one-piece.
post #8 of 25
"IT" is what pays my bills. If it wasn't for "IT", I'd still be a mechanical engineer.

As for "it"...
It is the certain "je ne sais quoi".
It is the feeling of a first kiss with a new partner that you get every time you get off the uplift.
It is when your heart rules your head, and all your head can do is create certain muscle tensions in your face that lead to big grins, whoops, and laughs, not just superficial, but joyous emotions overflowing from your very soul.
It is the realisation that reality is even better than the dream.
It is how I look right now as I type this and think about "it".
It is not being the world's most stylish skier, but not caring, cause it is too much fun.
It is releasing the inner child's inquisitiveness and playfulness.
It is forgetting your ego, and having fun.
It is leaving the cares of the world behind.
It is being at one with creation, and being that bit nearer the Creator.
It is where there are no wars, or rumours of wars.
It is where skier speaks peacable to boarder.
It is where the only sharp thing is your edges.
It is not trying to do the most verticals, or the steepest runs, but about being the "real" you.
It is better than psychiatrists, psychologists, TV chat shows and all the rest.
It is a place I love to go to, and hate to leave.
It is where I am at peace.

Stewart.

Now, in the words of Microsoft: "Where do you want to go today?"
post #9 of 25
Beautiful, Fox. I agree "it" is that certain "je ne sais quois" . . . but I don't know what it is!
post #10 of 25
Quote:
Originally posted by Wear the fox hat:
"IT" is what pays my bills. If it wasn't for "IT", I'd still be a mechanical engineer.

As for "it"...
It is the certain "je ne sais quoi".
It is the feeling of a first kiss with a new partner that you get every time you get off the uplift.
It is when your heart rules your head, and all your head can do is create certain muscle tensions in your face that lead to big grins, whoops, and laughs, not just superficial, but joyous emotions overflowing from your very soul.
It is the realisation that reality is even better than the dream.
It is how I look right now as I type this and think about "it".
It is not being the world's most stylish skier, but not caring, cause it is too much fun.
It is releasing the inner child's inquisitiveness and playfulness.
It is forgetting your ego, and having fun.
It is leaving the cares of the world behind.
It is being at one with creation, and being that bit nearer the Creator.
It is where there are no wars, or rumours of wars.
It is where skier speaks peacable to boarder.
It is where the only sharp thing is your edges.
It is not trying to do the most verticals, or the steepest runs, but about being the "real" you.
It is better than psychiatrists, psychologists, TV chat shows and all the rest.
It is a place I love to go to, and hate to leave.
It is where I am at peace.

Stewart.

Now, in the words of Microsoft: "Where do you want to go today?"
this is why I love Fox~
[img]graemlins/angel.gif[/img]
post #11 of 25
WTFH that was beautiful

It is also the insatiable euphoria you feel after a long day of hard runs, thighs burning, aching to sit down, having a few drinks with your friends
It is standing at the bottom of a chute, lungs heaving, watching your mates come down one at a time
It is babbling uncontrollably on a chairlift with your skiing pals after a great run
It is hot spring days skiing slush and fooling around
It is sitting in the lodge, blizzarding outside, quietly playing cards and drinking coffee's, anticipating clearance
It is the smell of wax being applied to your legs, oops I mean skis
It is when your heart is in your mouth looking at a tough descent
It is an unexpectedly great forecast
post #12 of 25
I like to compare skiing to the rhythm of music
-In the groove
-In the pocket
-In Sync
-In the zone
-On 2 and 4
-On the 1
-On the accent
-On cue
-To the bridge
-To the Coda
Repeat
post #13 of 25
Thread Starter 
Perhaps a question could be directed at those who make it their business to watch others ski.

How could one see that someone else had "felt it".??

I was, and am taken by the succinct appraisal and description.

Note:
ME is who sees through my eyes and listens to the words of my thoughts.

ME is very much different than those things!

CalG
post #14 of 25
Thread Starter 
I believe that this may be the visible part of "IT" that I was looking for.

Thanks Bob B.

[Learning to ski the slow line fast, to adopt the habit of an OFFENSIVE state of mind (not necessarily an AGGRESSIVE state of mind), involves a true paradigm shift for most skiers. If you "turn" to slow down, you haven't made this shift yet--that alone is a defensive thought. It is an all-encompassing change, and it may not make sense until you've arrived at it! But it is a change that will not only make your on-piste turns smoother, more effortless, more elegant, and more carved, but it will give you an entirely new sense of control everywhere, and it will make off-piste skiing not only possible, but enjoyable! It will allow you to ski ANY line faster, and with more control. It, and it alone, will put you on the path to expert skiing--the slow line is the ONLY line that takes you there!

It's worth pursuing!

Best regards,
Bob Barnes ]

"What is essential is invisible to the eye, One sees rightly only with the heart."

CalG
post #15 of 25
"IT" is what you want it to be or what you think "IT" could be or should be.

"IT" in part, must be that wonderful post by the "Fox" who obviously was wearing the "Hat" of wisdom.

Maybe the "Fox hat" is a source of true wisdom, and should be marketed ?

Anyway: " Well done ! "
post #16 of 25
The Kwan
post #17 of 25
"It" is forty-two.

Bob
post #18 of 25
Thread Starter 
Wink, Capboy, and Bob P

How could I see these things just by looking at the way you ski?

CalG
post #19 of 25
All good stuff, but what about Cal's friend last year? Is his "it" a transient thing? i.e. Did he have it and lost it on a particular run? Or, has he yet to find it at all?

I think it depends.

For the person who has yet to find it, Bob Barnes's words are apt, and this person has to grow into it. But, for the person who is merely having a bad day, then maybe some lowering the task might work wonders to get it back again. Or, maybe this person skis for experience and you guys ski for performance???

So, which was it Cal, was it a temporary thing or a permanant thing? (Or, was there an underlying factor such as a cold, or a sprained knee, or a fight with his wife, etc.)

Bob
post #20 of 25
Thread Starter 
WV

"It" I am sure, was yet to be felt.

We had skied together many time over the years. Same days, same mountains, different expressions.

I now am holding that until I become eager to perform the action, at the most advance level of performance that I am capable of (subjective), The full depth of my experience and the unfettering of the "real skier" will go missing.

In my former days, I held that true skiing started when trying to ski(thinking about skiing) stopped. Now I believe it also takes a smile on one's face. (At least on the inside)

CalG
post #21 of 25
Quote:
Originally posted by CalG:
Wink, Capboy, and Bob P

How could I see these things just by looking at the way you ski?

CalG
CalG:

Don't know about Wink and Capboy, but mine is irrefutable - you don't need to see me ski.

If "IT" is the essence of skiing, and if skiing is life, and since the answer to the great question of life is 42, then "IT" is 42.

Simple.

Bob
post #22 of 25
Thread Starter 
Bob P

I doubt if the "it" that began this topic is any of these significant aspects.

Though "it" may be contained within "IT", Certainly "it" is not the joy of life.
Elan Vital resides in places other than snowy mountains as well.

Could you sum your life in years spent?

Some people hardly know how old we are.

CalG
post #23 of 25
CalG:

I really was just joshing with you and I apologize for hitchhiking the thread.

It is interesting, though, that most who have responded here seem to feel that the "IT" you describe is an intangible quality that is very personal and difficult to define. It's the old "I can't define pornography, but I know it when I see it" concept.

Given that, I wonder if you and your friend weren't being a bit judgemental when deciding that your other friend didn't have "IT". Perhaps he feels he has gobs and gobs of "IT", as long as the conditions fit his preferences.

Just a thought.

Bob
post #24 of 25
"It" is a Stephen King novel about some Clown dude who hides in the sewars and kills little kids who have fears.

"It" is different for everybody. For me, it's skiing in general. The feeling I get everytime I step into the bindings.

The feeling of floating down a steep bump run in two feet of the lightest powder that ever fell on a slope. Slamming through a stand of evergreen trees laden with snow, chasing and being chased with your friends.

The key is being in the right frame of mind to allow "it" to happen.
post #25 of 25
One word...

Passion...

It is that long awaited feeling to hear your edges carve turns, feeling the cold air on your teeth because you have the biggest shit eating grin on your face, knowing the fact that with each turn could very well be you last, and last but least, "it" is the closest feeling to an orgasim without taking your pants off..... [img]tongue.gif[/img]
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