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How much do you pay for a tune-up??

post #1 of 22
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How much do you pay a local ski shop to tune up your skis? (edges and wax.. the whole deal)
post #2 of 22
Thread Starter 
Just a little background here.. I got my skis tuned today and it cost me $34.50. I consider this to be quite a bit, but do not have the equipment to do them myself. I was just curious to see what others pay in comparison. Thanks!
post #3 of 22
$34.50 canadian? what's that, like $5 murrikan?
post #4 of 22
I read an article in a ski mag (i think it was SKI),that was like a detachble booklet on tuning and waxing .
I bought a $ 50 kit , liberated an old iron ,and I never had to pay again for a tuning .
And it's great to wax your ski every 2 days , specially on powder days, they are always PERFECT.

Anyway in Argentina a standard light tuning is 5 dollars or less.
post #5 of 22
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Quote:
Originally posted by BG:
$34.50 canadian? what's that, like $5 murrikan?
hahahaha enough of the depreciated-canadian-dollar jokes!
post #6 of 22
Sliding scale depending on the work. All hand work will be more. Core shots near the edge will be more. special wax will be more. Top end is about $60 for edge core shots, lots of hand base work, edge work, and full wax job with floro.

Mark
post #7 of 22
i work at a shop so i do mine myself...

get a base edge bevel, side edge bevel, sidewall planer (if you have skis with sidewall, not cap), rilling bar, some ptex, wax, metal scraper, plastic scraper and a file and you should be set in terms of what you need to do tuning yourself [img]smile.gif[/img] About...$50-60 for the entire deal..plus $2 or 3 if you can find an iron at your local goodwill store.

So...for about $60, you can tune your skis however you want, when you want [img]smile.gif[/img]

the shop i work at charges $25 for edge and wax, $30 for edge wax and stone structure, and $45 for edge wax stone structure and base repair [img]smile.gif[/img]

Mello
post #8 of 22
In New York, most places will give you a basic tuneup (sharpen and wax) for free if you buy them there ($20 if you don't buy them there). Full tune (add P-tex, grind base) $5-$10.

Up at Killington, Shops charge $125 for a "Season Tune" which you can use up to 3 sets of skis on.
post #9 of 22
Resort 1: feed instructor - free tuning
Resort 2: go to instructors shop that tunes his skis(for base grinds/repairs he does rest) - they give ski school rates to me - CHEAP [img]smile.gif[/img] (Ok I feed them cakes sometimes too but... Oh & it helps that they like me because I am NICE to my skis not NASTY)
post #10 of 22
D.I.Y for sure. There is nothing better then sweet glide that you laid yourself. Mini travel kit gets packed right in there along with the toothbrush.
post #11 of 22
I dropped a pair of skis off at a local shop to get a couple edge core shots fixed the other day, all i wanted done was the core shots. They quoted me $15. Came back to pick them up, paid the $15, took a look at them and they had done a full tune on them! i was pretty stoked about that.

Usually i just trade sushi though.
post #12 of 22
Pay?
post #13 of 22
P....P....P.....Pay someone else to tune MY skis??? : : :
post #14 of 22
i've been giving away alot of free tunes at the shop lately. Things are just so slow in SD (1 rental so far going out) that I just do a free tune/wax/base repair for everyone who walks in the door and is willing to wait a little bit.

melloboy [img]tongue.gif[/img]
post #15 of 22
Post tune up inspections?

I recently took my long boards in for their "'couple of times in my life time" stone grind. They had developed a base hi condition underfoot from the relentless attention given to maintaining knife-like edge sharpness needed with our New England "packed powder". (the blue kind). I hate sanding p-tex, so thought to get someone else to do the hard work with the stone grinding equipment.

After driving 25 miles to the "reputable shop" and then driving the same trip again several days later to pick them up, I discovered that I had made a grave error. I did not check the work! I did not have my true bar in my pocket. Though I wanted to inspect the results, I let myself be lulled into trusting that this reputable shop would QC their own work, and no fault would be found.

Though I had asked for the stone grind only, I was treated to the complete treatment . Base edge and hot wax. These skis have a few blems in base, that I usually touch up with the drip candle. So when I got home I put them into the ski vise and had a look. The bases where still high! Drat!

I called the shop. The gal assured me that "no one had ever complained before". I suggested that perhaps "no one cares, or knows the difference, OR, had never checked.

The next week, I repeated the drive sequence. Brought my true bar to show the problem and then to check the result.

All was as it should be. The tech said it took 14 passes over the stone to level the bases!

(these same skis had been "over night tuned" at the mountian last year in attempt to do the same correction. I just accepted that the job would be half, and it was.

I specify flat bases( 0 degree) and 1 degree edge bevel. It is easy to add bevel. Hard to remove it.

'Did the wax job at home. Blue base with red on top.
'Skied then yesterday on "dust on ice" they skied fine. mountain temps were about 15 degrees and snowing here in S. Vt.

I will inspect all the professional work before I leave the shop from now on.

CalG
post #16 of 22
MB

The base center was about .2 -.4 mm high . A true bar rocked about 3 degrees.

Yes. I know the edges on the stone are not well liked. But how else can you get a flat base?

Ski shop types:
Can the skis be sent through a stone grind machine a bit skewed, so grooves in the stone won't be formed?

The last pass can be "normal" to restore base structure and direction.

CalG
post #17 of 22
OK, I like polls. ...But only when they work for all of the possible choices!!

I pay $40.00 US for a complete tune-up, but the poll didn't have a place for that particular cost!!!!!!! :
post #18 of 22
CalG,
how base high were they? I've seen a few that have been pretty bad, but after 4 or 5 passes over the stone, the edges start gouging the stone....shop manager isn't too happy about that.

MelloBoy
post #19 of 22
CalG,
I've been able to flat file with limited luck, but it takes alot of time, and it doesn't always work either :| We also have a machine called a Skid that puts a new layer of ptex on the base which I've been able to use, also with very limited luck. Personally, if i do a tune and i can't get a flat base, i try not to deal with it too much because when you do the bevels, the bevels get screwed up too. You might get a 2 degree side bevel relative to the base, but relative to a flat line, you end up getting like...a 3-4 degree bevel depending on how bad the base is high. Same with the base edge :|(this is with hand filing).

Another thing that's possible is to take a base grinding belt (i know it as the blue belt) and run it a few times over that..the base gets fuzzy's, but it takes a base high ski down a little bit. Then take a metal scraper, take all the hairs off, then run it over the stone...

hope this helps a bit in your situation...or if some techs could post on here their techniques to get a base flat, i'd like to read about it [img]smile.gif[/img]

MelloBoy
post #20 of 22
Quote:
Originally posted by rossi9irl:
How much do you pay a local ski shop to tune up your skis? (edges and wax.. the whole deal)
$24 Regular price, then discount with mobil gas coupons
post #21 of 22
Mellow

Thank you for your comments and experience.

I am not a tuner, but it would appear that the belt machines could be used to establish the flat base without damage to stones. The stone machine could then be brought in to achieve the final structure with a high level of flatness.

I ski my edges flat (0 degree base angle) if I can. This doesn't last long as some bevel is pretty hard to avoid with hand filing.

Base bevel sure is advantagous to the "ski tuning machines" like the Montana or other disc type base edge sharpeners. Perhaps that is why base angle recommendations is getting higher and higher over the past years.

CalG
post #22 of 22
CalG,
i experimented around today at the shop (ssshhh....don't tell my manager) with edge high skis. Our setting is usually 2.5lbs of pressure onto the ski or board. If you lower it down to 1~1.5lbs of pressure and increase the clearance between the feed wheel and stone, you can get edge high skis through there, though the center of the ski gets missed a little bit.

Using that concept, you might be able to take your skis into the shop you got them back from, ask them to try lowering the feed wheel pressure and increasing the clearance slightly, and see if that can get it flat.

Another thing you might want to consider, and it's not a good thought, is that the technician might be jacking the ski up. At our shop, we have a few guys that do huge batches of tunes at a time in a short time. Sometimes they'll run the ski over the belt at an angle without the feed wheel, so the base gets beveled. And it's sad, really, because the customer comes back and the ski is jacked...the customer is pissed, so i do a deluxe tune or a basic tune (depending on how badly they're jacked) in a 45min period and at the end, i'm pissed too cause i have to clean up someone elses mess...to make matters worse, the ppl who jacked the skis don't sign the ticket so we don't know who did it either :/ i CAN say that i take alot of pride in the tunes that i do. and i do have a small number of customers (3 or 4) who ask for me specifically to do their tunes. It's basically about who takes their time or who rushes it. but in all honesty, i have my bad days too...so sometimes, i forget to flatten the base...other times there's still a little rust on the base, etc. but i DO put the customer first (and i think anyone in repairs should do the same). If the customer isn't happy, i'll retune it on the spot at no extra charge (even if it goes from basic to deluxe). so go back in and tell them your predicament and they should be willing to help.

if the base bevel IS a big concern, ask the head ski tech to check it out for you and see what your options are. Alot of non-head tech tuning guys won't know how to deal with it...i know I didn't until I asked how (and most techs who are young tend not to).

I hope this helps you out man!

MelloBoy
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