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Gotama binding position?

post #1 of 14
Thread Starter 
Any recommendations for binding position on 05/06 190cm Gotama's (the all black ones) for freeride use?

No park use & only very limited groomed use as the owner has other skis for this.

Owner is a 6'2" 240lb advanced off-piste skier.
post #2 of 14
Mount them on the I on the sidewall.
post #3 of 14
Thread Starter 
ticos, thanks, but the ski has both freeride & freestyle mounting marks on the top sheet.

These tend to be 'Mr.Average' positions so my question is directed to existing Gotama owners who have used/tried different positions relative to the freeride line, ie - 1cm or +1cm etc.
post #4 of 14
The two guys I'd trust on this would be Squaretail at TGR and FesterSkis here. Squaretail is with Volkl. Festerskis is with untracked.com

I'm sure others know the info you are looking for as well - but those two guys are probably the $$ when it comes to your specific question. Possibly making things worse, I seem to recall (but not totally sure) that all or some of that year's run were actually mismarked by a bit - so the real answer might be to measure. You might use search here and at TGR to see any specific comments on mounting that model year Gotama.
post #5 of 14
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Originally Posted by spyderjon View Post
ticos, thanks, but the ski has both freeride & freestyle mounting marks on the top sheet.

These tend to be 'Mr.Average' positions so my question is directed to existing Gotama owners who have used/tried different positions relative to the freeride line, ie - 1cm or +1cm etc.
I ski the gotama as my everyday ski with naxos and I mounted them on the I on the sidewall. You are correct in saying that there are two lines on the topsheet but those lines are inconsistent with each pair of skis. Basically stamping those lines on the top sheet is not an exact science. One FR line could be a few mm off from another FR line.

The I on the sidewall however is consistent with every pair of Gotamas, hence my reason to mount on the I.
post #6 of 14
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Originally Posted by ticos View Post
I ski the gotama as my everyday ski with naxos and I mounted them on the I on the sidewall. You are correct in saying that there are two lines on the topsheet but those lines are inconsistent with each pair of skis. Basically stamping those lines on the top sheet is not an exact science. One FR line could be a few mm off from another FR line.

The I on the sidewall however is consistent with every pair of Gotamas, hence my reason to mount on the I.
In general, I'm with you. The topsheet lines (unless embossed post-pressing) are always suspect. However, with that specific ski I vaguely recall some issue with the I position as well vs the measurement spec'd for the ski. I could well be wrong. And I doubt it'd be fatal anyway. Still, given the question on the table, worth checking.

I ski newer 183s on the Freeride line. It is definitely a very far back mount. Looks kind of odd with the skis on the wall. But the ski is designed with that long shovel and at least for me it skis well as a "jack of all trades" ski without tip dive in deeper snow. There are two opinionated camps at TGR about where to mount Gotamas. Some like the freeride mountpoint as it alleviates tip dive. Others like the control and feel of the forward line. My intuition is that those of us who are a bit heavier appreciate the back line...
post #7 of 14
Thread Starter 
spindrift/ticos, thanks for that - just the kind of info I'm after. I've compared the two skis are the top sheet marks are a few mm out from each other but the 'I' marks match spot on. A couple of Maggots also confirm the 'I' mark & as my customer's a big guy that's what I'll use. It also puts his BOF over the CRS so it should be spot on. You're right re that long shovel, there does seem to be a lot of ski out front.
post #8 of 14
I think anyone skiing gotama in non-booter switch lading terrain should mount on the freeride mark.

the ski will just not tip dive at that mark, and it will rip any other soft snow condition with the best of them.
post #9 of 14
I'm on the freeride line, but I intend to remount with some Dukes. When I do, I am going to move forward a touch for the more centered feel I get from my PRs.
post #10 of 14
I skied my 04-05's on the line, but then I'm 75 lbs lighter than you and I like to turn. You don't mention your style or what you plan to mount (AT? Alpine?)

Either way disagree about the magical qualities of any factory "I". May or may not be near running surface center, varies wildly by brand. Volkls tend to be back a ways relative to many skis. If you really care, do the measurements yourself: running surface, boot BOF, then figure out where you want your BOF relative to true center. (Threads on this here and article at Realskier) If you don't know, do this on your other skis, see what you habitually favor. Keep in mind that your model is fairly soft relative to your weight, probably don't want to get too far forward.
post #11 of 14
My '08 190cm Gotama is mounted 7.5mm in front of the freeride line. Measured from the tail of the ski (not based on the topsheet line). I can't locate my Volkl tech manual but there is an accurate length for the 'true' length per size in it.

The lines on my skis were both dead on based on this measurement. Maybe I got lucky? Always good to measure before you drill.
post #12 of 14
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Originally Posted by Whiteroom View Post
My '08 190cm Gotama is mounted 7.5mm in front of the freeride line. Measured from the tail of the ski (not based on the topsheet line). I can't locate my Volkl tech manual but there is an accurate length for the 'true' length per size in it.

The lines on my skis were both dead on based on this measurement. Maybe I got lucky? Always good to measure before you drill.
Hi Whiteroom:

You said your ski line turned out to be right on with the measured spot.

What line are you refering to? The script on thee topsheet or the sidewall marks?
post #13 of 14
I'm not a park guy at all but I ski almost everything a little forward of the "traditional" line. I have both Gotamas and Karma's and I ski them both about +2 cm of the freeride mark, and that seems to be the sweet spot for me
post #14 of 14
Gotama, I was refering to the topsheet line for 'freeride'. It is not part of the topsheet graphic, it is applied later and it was dead-nuts, at least on my pair.
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