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JR Race Skis for lightweight women skiers

post #1 of 8
Thread Starter 
My friend who is an intermediate, weighs 106 and is approx. 162 cm tall. She is looking to improve. She improved a lot last season although she spent only a few days on snow.

Her current ski is the Fischer XTR Carve with an integrated binding system. That is the problem. With today's integrated binding systems it is almost impossible to lift the toe or heel of the binding. I was able to lift the toe of the integrated Fisher binding (made by Salomon) and her stance improved. But that was an exception and translated into immediate technique improvement. Boot lifters helped her, of course, but with binding lifters she skied even better. That is why i am looking for a ski that comes flat or comes with a binding system that accepts lifters.

She will ski the Fishers until she becomes an advanced skier and then move up to a better ski. But which ski?

I am looking at the Volkl JR Racetiger Racestock SL ski. Volkl says that the ski has a construction similar to the adult models (power and sensorwood) and has no titanium. Only the 150 has titanium. The 142 doesn't have metal in it and it's the length i'm interested in.

Now the great thing is that the ski comes with the Marker JR SL Plate which has many positions i can choose from to mount the binding. It accepts lifters, of course!

My question is: do you think that the Volkl could be a good choice for an advanced skier who skis mainly groomed runs?

Thanks a lot!
post #2 of 8
What length ski is she on now? I think that a 142 with no metal is too short. Why not look into something that would suit her needs better - like a higher performance women-specific ski (which are usually softer)? Also... the 150cm Volkl is a pretty soft ski - even with the metal. I actually was flexing one on Saturday to compare to the real ski.
Later
GREG
post #3 of 8
Thread Starter 
She skis a 148 and thinks that a soft/very soft ski would suit her best. Her Fischer is a very soft ski. She is a finesse skier. Do you think that a 142 Volkl Racetiger JR or even a 150 (with the metal) would be too soft?

Yes she is looking at some women-specific skis but with most systems it is impossible to modify the binding ramp. That is why she is considering a jr race ski.

How would a Racetiger JR SL compare to a higher performance woman-specific ski in terms of groomer performance? Do you think that a 142 or 150 Racetiger would be lower performance skis than the higher performance women-specific skis? Theoretically, the Volkl is a higher performance ski because it has a sandwich construction with vertical sidewalls (power and sensorwood) as opposed to the cap construction of the women-specific skis. There must be a reason why it is very soft. It probably doesn't have fiberglass which would stiffen up the skis.

Is the 150 Racetiger much softer than the 155 adult model?

I was told that the Marker M10.0 JR EPS accepts adult boot soles only. That is good news because she has an adult boot. She would not have any problems with the Marker JR plate and binding.

Thank you.
post #4 of 8
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She skis a 148 and thinks that a soft/very soft ski is would suit her best. Her Fischer is a very soft ski. She is a finesse skier. Do you think that a 142 Volkl Racetiger JR or even a 150 (with the metal) would be too soft?
I think the 142 is going to be too soft and too short.

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Yes she is looking at some women-specific skis but with most systems it is impossible to modify the binding ramp. That is why she is considering a jr race ski.
Why the focus on modification? Is she considering a junior race ski or are you considering it for her? Traditionally most ramping modifications are done to the boot sole to allow for the same ramp/alignment no matter what skis you are on.

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How would a Racetiger JR SL compare to a higher performance woman-specific ski in terms of groomer performance? Do you think that a 142 or 150 Racetiger would be lower performance skis than the higher performance women-specific skis?
The 142cm racetiger will not compete with high level women's skis because it is going to be too small. The 150 will compete. I have skied elan's junior offering in a 150 and they really rip - just like a normal race ski - that means they are less prone to enjoy skidding and really like to be in a carve. Women-specific variants are less tempermental. FWIW, this spring my girlfriend went back to skiing on her Exclusive 10's after spending the season on Elan SLX's because she was moe comfortable skiing the Exclusive in rough snow and much more comfortable when venturing into the bumps.

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Is the 150 Racetiger much softer than the 155 adult model?
Yes. It is lighter too. It also looked like it had thinner metal in it... but the differences are probably 10th's of a millimeter, so I doubt that one can easily tell with the naked eye... so I could be wrong.

If I were you I would look toward mid-level women's skis such as the Exclusive 10 (or whatever is around these days that would be an equivalent). Don't go too short. If she were just starting to ski I would say that her 148 (or even the 142) is fine, but since she has aspirations to become a better skier, the added stability of a 150 to 155 (but higher level ski than she is on now) will pay dividends later down the road. Basically you want something that will allow her to ski well, but not force her to ski well (thus terrifying her).

For next season my girlfriend and I are considering a ski that is longer and softer than her current SLX (possibly a 160cm i.Supershape), although she may adopt a pair of 160cm SLX Fusions instead.

Later

GREG
post #5 of 8
I agree w/ Helluva, I would sooner see her on an adult high end womans ski.
post #6 of 8
I'm in the same boat with heluva and phil.
My husband tried to get me to ski on a jr race ski, which did not work for me.

A consumer race ski or a high end woman's ski would be far better for her than a jr.
post #7 of 8
Thread Starter 
Thank you for the replies!

Yes i am considering a jr race ski for her. She doesn't know anything about boot/binding/plate modifications. I have to find the best skis and boots for her.

I know that a woman-specific ski would be a good choice. I was considering a jr race ski for her because i can modify the binding ramp. Other than that i see no major advantage going with the jr race ski.
post #8 of 8
My wife skis on Jr race skis. She is 5' and 95 lbs, but is not an intermediate. A Jr race ski is a good choice for someone who you would put on the adult version is they weren't so "space efficient", as my better half calls herself. Intermediate and race ski is not a good combo.

Remember that not all Jr race skis are smaller versions of adult skis. Many are mid line rec skis with race graphics to appeal to developing racers.
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