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Fischer Ski's International site for 07-08 is up.
http://www.fischer-ski.com/en/

Christmas in July.
post #2 of 22
Does anyone know what the fit of the heatfire boots is supposed to be? I talked to a Fischer rep in late April, and he said the new boot would be called the aggressor, and would be a roomier fit. It doesn't look like that is the case. I need something for some huge calf muscles.

FWIW, I skied and reviewed the Cold Heat ski. It is great.

The Cool Heat ski has a confusing description. The text says its waist is 79 mm, while the sidecut description says the waist is 76. I think 79 mm is right because they have a 74 mm and 82 mm ski. My guess is this is the ski we will see the most of in the East, although I will probably go for the Cold Heat, probably in length 176.
post #3 of 22
And these:





Are nowhere to be seen.

Bah Humbug.
post #4 of 22
The Race section of skis is also a suprise.

First, the FIS legal Worldcup skis are not displayed and are not to found anywhere else.

Second, the RC4 Race SC has the same dims & bindings as the RX8 Fire. Are they the same ski with a different paint job? This might be an academic question in our market if the Race SC is no longer in the U.S. lineup. It seems that the 2007/2008 RX8 is now built around the old Race SC.

Finally, The WC Race RC has the same dims and bindings as last years RX9!

Cheers,

Michael
post #5 of 22
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Originally Posted by barrettscv View Post
The Race section of skis is also a suprise.

First, the FIS legal Worldcup skis are not displayed and are not to found anywhere else.

Second, the RC4 Race SC has the same dims & bindings as the RX8 Fire. Are they the same ski with a different paint job? This might be an academic question in our market if the Race SC is no longer in the U.S. lineup. It seems that the 2007/2008 RX8 is now built around the old Race SC.

Finally, The WC Race RC has the same dims and bindings as last years RX9!

Cheers,

Michael
The RC4 Race SC last season also had the same dimensions as the RX8 from last season. The rep's told me that the RC4 Race SC was stiffer, but I never tried one out. Another ski this year with the same dimensions is the RX6. In previous years the RX6 did not have the same sidecut as the RX8. The RX6 had a longer turning radius. The progressor is new, and the guys who tried at at the PSIA National Academy seemed very enthusiastic about it. I have a couple of pairs of RX8's and a pair of AMC 76's, so for me the best value added would be the Cold Heat, or a racing ski, but I haven't figured out which ski, if any, I would get from the race line.
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The progressor is new, and the guys who tried at at the PSIA National Academy seemed very enthusiastic about it.
I'm definitely interested in the Progessor. The 118-70-100mm sidecut with sandwich construction make this the ideal ski for no-new-snow days.

Considering that my WC SC is a new purchase this year, I'll have to wait until next year for the Progressor .

Michael
post #7 of 22
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Originally Posted by FOG View Post
Does anyone know what the fit of the heatfire boots is supposed to be? I talked to a Fischer rep in late April, and he said the new boot would be called the aggressor, and would be a roomier fit. It doesn't look like that is the case. I need something for some huge calf muscles...
In its the race boot section of the site, Fischer has the Progressor. The boots in Fischer's Race and Heat Fire line all have an adjustable/removable spoiler to accommodate wider/narrower calves. Additionally, the top buckles also have two pre-drilled settings to further adjust for a wider/narrower calf.

The MX line uses a slightly different approach: with a tool supplied with the boots the top rear of the boot can be set in two different positions to accommodate a wider/narrower calf. Basically, the top rear of the MX boots can be flipped forward or backward. The MX line also has adjustable buckles. During the last two seasons I've been skiing in Fischer boots. They are, from my perspective, very adjustable for calf width.

I'm guessing that the "Aggressor" and the Progressor are one and the same boot. A cool thing about Fischer's website is that they list the last width of their boots as well as the relative flex index of their different models.
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The Race section of skis is also a surprise.

First, the FIS legal Worldcup skis are not displayed and are not to found anywhere else...

Finally, The WC Race RC has the same dims and bindings as last years RX9!

Cheers,

Michael
Fischer seems to go out of its way to make things a little confusing. They usually also delay announcing the specs for their FIS skis, maybe to allow for some last minute tweaks or for some marketing reason. It doesn't surprise me that the FIS skis are not up on the site yet.

I do know that they are being skied on at Mt. Hood by summer ski racers. I was at Govt Camp several weeks ago (where many ski manufacturers set up shop during the Hood race camps), and saw their race skis and lots of racers lined up to demo them. Missed the chance to have Steve Nyman autograph a Fischer poster by one day though.

Technically, last year's RX-9 were badged as 110-69-96. The previous two seasons RX-9's were 109-69-96. However, I suspect that this season's WC Race RC is pretty much the RX-9 with different graphics. In the PNW, quite a few people have been racing in the local recreational league on the RX-9. Its somewhat wider than typical GS race ski dimensions seemed to work pretty well in the softer PNW snow and many recreational league skiers don't own dedicated race skis.
post #9 of 22
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Originally Posted by MAGGOT View Post
And these:





Are nowhere to be seen.

Bah Humbug.
Fischer makes a whole bunch of different models, not all of which make its International or USA sites. They could also turn up as a mid-season release possibly with a different name and graphics.

Some Fischer ski models are sold in some markets and not others. It could yet turn up in the USA. Fischer makes excellent skis but I've never been able to understand its marketing strategy.:
post #10 of 22
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Fischer makes excellent skis but I've never been able to understand its marketing strategy.:
Best discribed as " We make all of our income in Europe".

Michael
post #11 of 22
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Fischer makes excellent skis but I've never been able to understand its marketing strategy.:
Don't feel like the lone ranger......THEY don't understand it either.

BTW.....I love those guys in the US office and they are trying hard to make a race line into something else for the US market.

Some clarifications.....The "Cool" is 76mm and one of the best skis in this width category. The "Duke" was somewhat of a trial ballon and were going to be made to order. (I suspect that it will be a short production run)

SJ
post #12 of 22
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The "Cool" is 76mm and one of the best skis in this width category. SJ
Hi Jim,

The Cool's specs & features look great (to me) on paper. Laminate construction, with a great GS shape, should deliver. Have you skied the new Monster 78? If so, how do they compare?

Michael
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I was not really considering Head for this year so although I usually try to ski everything, I didn't get on the M-78. I will ski it in December, but that's of no help to you now.......sorry.

I will say this, the "Cool" has a very similar personality to the Rx-9 (which I personally think is/was an absolutely great ski. Obviously, the "Cool" is bigger and that effect is notable. The biggest thing about the "Cool (IMO) is the flowflex plate. It smooths this ski out like a deflex but without the stiffening and with a tich less weight.

The "Cool" is not brutally stiff but the weight makes it less nimble than some flat skis in this width category. I'd say the "Cool" fits my 70/30 groomer/off road category to a "T". This is really a wide(ish) carver in the genre of the Top Fuel, Volkl AC-30.

SJ
post #14 of 22
Speaking of the new Fischers, I see that next year's line has several widths and lengths of the Watea, which appears to actually be a renaming of some other models. Am I the only guy on the planet skiing on these skis? I don't think I saw one other pair on the slopes all last season, and I skied New Mexico, Colorado, Utah and Canada. I only saw maybe 3 pairs of the 96 waisted Atuas. I'm on the original Wateas (101 waist and 192 length) and they have an amazing combination of very soft flex with extreme torsional stiffness. They are the most fun soft snow ski I have ever been on. They don't have much sidecut but you can work the soft tips and tails to turn on a dime when necessay. When you need an emergency deep snow turn you don't have to rear back, just hit the tips even harder. They let you stay forward in powder and crud like nothing I've been on before without a bloated tip.

They have stiffened up the flex of the newer models but they are still on the mellow side of the flex scale. Don't let the "big mountain freeride" lable scare you. I picked mine up in Spring of 2006 (their first season) in SLC for 1/2 price because they weren't selling. If you are like me and hadn't considered Fisher skis for many years, check them out. They are putting out a good product, and their tele skis rip too. The fact that they are somewhat under the radar just makes them less in demand and therefore cheaper.
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The flat skis should definitely not be overlooked. I skied a Porohete (106mm) in a 190 on a blowing wet snow kinda day a while back and although the ski was longer than I normally feel necessary, it was very easy to ski and very damp while slashing up the glop. I much preferred it over the K2 Pontoon which I skied back to back. (the Pontoon was very nice in the goo but the Porohete was about as good and was faaaaar better everywhere else). The new Watea 84 is also a very nice ride.

SJ
post #16 of 22
The Duke07 is a limited modell as announced on the Austrian webpage. It'll only be sold to some shops in true freeride stations. AFAIK it'll be 207cm long - hence the name and sandwich/titanal construction.
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I will say this, the "Cool" has a very similar personality to the Rx-9 (which I personally think is/was an absolutely great ski.

SJ
I'm confused too. The RX8 is still here but the RX9 name is gone. Which model is it's replacement?

Steve
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I'm confused too. The RX8 is still here but the RX9 name is gone. Which model is it's replacement?

Steve
There is no direct replacement. The new Progressor is the closest thing in terms of feel to the RX-9 although it is a fairly different ski. (superb ski btw, just different)

IMO the RX-9 was one of the better expert carvers out there because it could be skied by a wide variety of styles including very old schoolish feet together schwivellers. This is more important than one might think because despite the way people talk about themselves, when you go to a resort and watch skiers.....you see way the heck more folks skiing that way than you do folks skiing with their skis out from underneath and up on a higher edge.

As a retailer, I am very conscious/cautious of self described "experts" that might ski on their heels or in bad boots. Some skis, especially some stiffer, deeper sidecut carvers may not be great choices for this type of skier.

SJ
post #19 of 22
Sierra Jim,

I agree with you about the RX9. It was a ski that rewarded current carving technique, but old school skiers could go with it as their first experience with shape ski technology and feel comfortable on day one. I figured that the Progressor might be about the closest thing to the RX9 in the new line-up. Probably not as forgiving, though.

My choice for this season will be the Cool Heat. I haven't had the chance to demo them, but based on the specs they look good.
post #20 of 22
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I'm confused too. The RX8 is still here but the RX9 name is gone. Which model is it's replacement?

Steve
And the replacement is... (the old ski with a new name & paint job).

RC4 RACE RC

For piste professionals. The performance packed Race Carver with unique turning behaviour and an absolutely smooth ride. Features Air Carbon Titanium and World Cup Tuning.



RADIUS17 m / 170 cmSIDECUT109 - 69 - 96LENGTHS180, 175, 170, 165, 160BINDINGFX12 RAILFLEX 2TECHNOLOGYFT FRAME
SANDWICH CONSTRUCTION
FREQUENCY TUNING INSIDE
WORLDCUP TUNING
RAILFLEX SP
AIR CHANNEL
AIR CARBON TI
post #21 of 22
The Race RC on the web site sure looks like pretty much the same ski. It wasn't in the catalog that I got last spring.
post #22 of 22
I'm thinking that its not coming to the US.

Michael
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