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What is 'New School' ?

post #1 of 9
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Isn't that a phrase which people use to explain moves they've never seen before because they're too young to remember the last time they were in popularity?
post #2 of 9
"...we won't get fooled again."
post #3 of 9
Yeah, "New School" is just a return to an attitude that skiing had lost due to insurance reasons. But there are some significant new developments. I think the important part was taking back terrain that had been given to snowboarders. I remeber getting my pass pulled for poaching a pipe at Homewood during college ('88?). I remeber "no jumping" signs everywhere. Yea, they had slopestyle contsts back in the seventies, and twintips too. But modern terrain parks have really changed the possibilities, and the safety factor. Watch "Hotdog Skiing", on RSN. The takeoffs look good, but there are no landings. Ouch. Yeah, people landed 1080"s, "moebious flips", screamin seemens, etc.. back in the day. We all know that. But, people got hurt, and a whole generation of us grew up with "no jumping" policies. It was not until snowboarding came, that things started to change. All of the sudden ski areas were in a battle to build the coolest pipe and park. Flipping on a snowboard was not illegal. Thank god people like Auclair, Dorian, Cusson, Szocs, and Moseley (see "Breath" from '95) put up with the hassles to poach the parks, and bring skiing back to an era of freedom. I will never forget the first time I saw "State of Mind", it was awsome the see skiing come back. Maybe the only thing new are the variety of grabs, but who cares as long as skiing is back.
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Well Cheaps your really setting yourself up again, but I will stay away from that. The reason that "newschool" is different today is due to one word- style. Early on when skiing started I figure the idea came up to try and go really fast, but I'm sure things were very sloppy and ugly at first. Then equipment started evolving, people started getting serious and practicing and learning new techniques so at some point racing and going fast acheived a certain level of style. As people started skiing other terrain, it was rough at first, but eventually progressed. The first time somebody skied a steep alaskan slope I guarantee they didn't do it with Nobis-like style. Think about the first time you ever skied, you fell all over yourself, but now you can do that same run easily and with style. I know the first time I skied deep pow I thought it sucked because I counldn't even make a turn but now it can be down with incredible style. It's just like jumping, sure it was done a while ago, but it lacked the progressive style that is coming about today. Now there are tons of skiers throwing sick tricks and doing it with such incredible style it's amazing. Equipment has advanced, training has advanced, and the ideas are progressing to give newschool a level of style previously unimaginable. Basically you can say sure newschool has roots in the 70's, but like every aspect of skiing it has evolved to a level of style previously never seen, and will continue to do so.
post #5 of 9
Dubs, what's up? You're making thoughtful posts without bombin' on people. Summer school? Anyway, it's a welcome...shift. Keep it up.
post #6 of 9
g-dubs,
"It's just like jumping, sure it was done a while ago, but it lacked the progressive style that is coming about today. Now there are tons of skiers throwing sick tricks and doing it with such incredible style it's amazing. Equipment has advanced, training has advanced, and the ideas are progressing to give newschool a level of style previously unimaginable. Basically you can say sure newschool has roots in the 70's, but like every aspect of skiing it has evolved to a level of style previously never seen, and will continue to do so."
I agree with you to a point, bt you are on some thin ice. Stein was doing sick slow laid out backflips over the deck @ Aspen Highlands when your mother was a young lass.
post #7 of 9
I don't care for the whole new school old school debate and don't think I've ever verbalized either term. It's all skiing to me.

Without question the upper tier of skiers are pushing the limits. Sure Stein and others before him were throwing flips, but they (as far as I know) weren't doing it off 100+ft cliffs or over 120ft gaps! What's new about "new school" is the amplitude.

Cheaps, is a 360 off a mogul the same move as a 360 off a 75ft cliff?
post #8 of 9
New School is a left wing college in NYC.
post #9 of 9
>>Stein was doing sick slow laid out backflips over the deck @ Aspen Highlands when your mother was a young lass.<<

Yah, but he wasn't corked-out, crossed-up and landing switch. Furthermore, he would have to attend a new school to learn what the words even mean, nor would he have even thought about those kind of moves. He was the New School at the time.

School is often applied to ways of thinking. New and Old School are terms that have been applied to other sports as well as professions. New meaning the paradigm is different from what came before. New School skiing is definitely all-that. Sick Mad Twisted Phat scenesters going off.
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