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post #1 of 18
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A beer glass that makes lagers taste better?! Astounding!! Sam Adams has done it again - Jim Koch is a genius!!

http://www.boston.com/ae/food/galler...nd_pint_glass/

http://www.boston.com/ae/food/articl...ew_brew_glass/
post #2 of 18
"loses coolness quicker"

Who writes this punny stuff?
post #3 of 18
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rim angle and top diameter

According to the article they hired a French glass consultant for the project.

More than a year in the making, the new glass was inspired by a French wine expert who joined Koch's corporate board and convinced the brewmeister that glass design could do for a tasty lager what it does for a piquant syrah.

Koch personally tested 150 varieties of beer glass before turning to Cambridge-based TIAX Laboratories to quantify the optimal lager-delivery system.

TIAX scientists began by establishing a flavor profile for Sam Adams lager in both bottles and kegs. They then compared 20 to 30 glass designs on features like rim angle and top diameter. Later they conducted a more in-depth study testing more than a dozen new designs before the final prototype was configured and turned over to a German glassmaker .
post #4 of 18
Yeah, pretty funny to see beer folks adopting wine stuff (previous examples: no-detergent hot water only washing, no-rag drying, pre-rinse with the drink then throw out, now glass shape).

still waiting for the adapted shape-changing ( & meat market tracking) iMug.

No need to sense flavor profile in the mug just yet, it can be blootooffed to the bar iCoasters.
post #5 of 18
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Yeah, pretty funny to see beer folks adopting wine stuff (previous examples: no-detergent hot water only washing, no-rag drying, pre-rinse with the drink then throw out, now glass shape).
One of them "beer folks," I'm glad to see that some of our quirky personal habits are making it to the mainstream.

Customized glassware is nothing new. Most Belgian breweries have very highly specialized vessels, and have for as long as they've had their beer. There's no way in Köln (Cologne) that you'd get a Kölsch in anything other than a stange, and weissbier has traditionally had a special glass to handle the copious amounts of foam that it carries. It's just that for the last 60 years or so, beer in the US (outside of craft brewing circles) has been brewed in such a way that you would probably be best off minimizing the flavor and aroma elements (thus the need for "ice cold" beer).

I will admit, though, that Koch is playing this up a LITTLE much, the same way he does with his "hops are to beer what grapes are to wine" stuff...


aaron
post #6 of 18
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Jim Koch is great - a little nutty about beer, but there can be worse things I think. Worst part I can see is he was a little tipsy once in a radio interview, overall I applaud his service to the beer community!
post #7 of 18
I've got an old glass very much like that in my cupboard, except for the very bottom. Maybe that's why my home-made zombies taste better than the store-bought ones.
post #8 of 18
I don't have to worry about the beer getting warm, it doesn't stay in the glass that long.
post #9 of 18
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Unless you serve it warm of course (as ales are supposed to be).
post #10 of 18
A big pint mug with a handle is heavier and better for hitting somebody over the head with.

Whereas, as a straight glass breaks more easily and is more useful when you want to chiv someone.

Light and bitter, or brown and mild are good drinks too. You often get more than a pint and they give you the bottle, which is a useful additional weapon.

Plastic glasses are no use to anybody. They are probably bad for the environment.

Fish and chips taste better out of newspaper too.
post #11 of 18
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Originally Posted by Latchigo View Post
A big pint mug with a handle is heavier and better for hitting somebody over the head with.

Whereas, as a straight glass breaks more easily and is more useful when you want to chiv someone.

Light and bitter, or brown and mild are good drinks too. You often get more than a pint and they give you the bottle, which is a useful additional weapon.

Plastic glasses are no use to anybody. They are probably bad for the environment.

Fish and chips taste better out of newspaper too.
An important consideration, now that so many bars no longer have ashtrays you can use with a fastball pitch.
post #12 of 18
Ghost,

Good point. Smoking is banned in English pubs from 1st July.

Those wonderful, heavy glass ashtrays, which saved many a knuckle, will disappear too.
post #13 of 18
Then there is the ol' "beer bong" (funnel and a hose) - a college favorite! Simple in design and effective in function! (very effective!)
post #14 of 18
I have to say that, IMNSHO, Sam Adams is the most over-rated brewery on the planet. Is it better than the swill from the mega-brewers? yeah. Is it as good as any of a host of other brewers (Wachusett, Harpoon, Long Trail, etc. etc. etc. etc.) Not a chance!!!!

Ya know what I can't stand, when you go into some restaurant and ask if they have any decent craft/micro-brewed beer and they go, oh yes we have Sam Adams, yuck.
post #15 of 18
Call me nostalgic if you will, but sometimes I go and get Molson Ex or Labatt's 50 in "Quarts" and drink it right out of the bottle. It may not be Holsten Festbock, but it's beer. For you young folk, beer used to come in larger bottles (even though they weren't proper quarts).
post #16 of 18
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well if you want beer on beer crime

I have to differ on Sammie. They haven't won all those awards for nothing. There's a consistency in quality that's hard to beat in microbrewed beer. Contrast that with Wachusett in the plastic capped jugs - it had some awful skunky flavors and odors on the few unfortunate occasions I've had it cross my palate.

Some of the small guys have a less predictable result unfortunately although you could argue that's the "character" of a true microbrew I suppose.
post #17 of 18
I was doing some *ahem* beer research yesterday, when I remembered the new Sam Adams "lager delivery systems". Has anyone actually tried one of these yet? I have to order a set. My friend (with whom I was doing this research) found the following diagram of the various features of this "lager delivery system":

post #18 of 18
How's the rounded shape gonna collect aromas if you fill it to the top? Seems that there's no room for collecting until the glass is half full, by which time, who cares?
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