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post #61 of 77
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Originally Posted by Wear The Fox Hat View Post
OK, so there's a lot of good thoughts here (far more than I was expecting!)

Does anyone know of any top road cyclist who has taken up skiing?
I'll bet Martin Bell can tell us about Greg Lemond's skiing. I think he took up cycling to rehab from a ski injury.
post #62 of 77
Sorry, I haven't met or skied with Greg, either in Colorado or at the Y/C. My wife did bump into him once in Vail and said he was a very nice guy.
post #63 of 77
Oh well, I know he skis at Y/C. I'm not even sure what the question is, but he is a top road cyclist who skis.
post #64 of 77
Cedric Gracia was a high level jr ski racer in France before taking up MTB Racing. Julie Furtado was on the USST for a number of years before dominating women's mountain biking in the early 90's.

Richie Schley has appeared in both ski and bike porn...err, videos.
post #65 of 77
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Originally Posted by Wear The Fox Hat;
Does anyone know of any top road cyclist who has taken up skiing?
Tyler Hamilton did the reverse.... (but I'm sure this is not news here...)
post #66 of 77
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Originally Posted by Wear The Fox Hat View Post
Does anyone know of any top road cyclist who has taken up skiing?
Also the other way around, Steve Hegg:
http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniont...21fitness.html
post #67 of 77
Thread Starter 
I guess the next question should be:
Is mountain biking more like skiing in the powder through the trees?
post #68 of 77
Have you ever scotched your right sit bone forward a little bit on the saddle to turn right? And left to go left? I spent thousands of miles chasing a guy named Mark on MX bikes. He looked like he was always seated. He was not. He hovered over the saddle, just like a guy named Ned did on a MTB. So here is a pointer I think works. Move your butt counter to the direction of the turn to set the turn up and keep the inside pedal high (leg flexed). Works for skiing too!
post #69 of 77
Thread Starter 
Just found another skier who is doing some cycling...


http://www.natives.co.uk/do/ecco.py/...istitemid=3396
post #70 of 77
I don't think anyone has mentioned this guy yet:
http://www.fis-ski.com/uk/604/613.ht...&type =result
post #71 of 77
Thread Starter 
OK, was playing around with "separation" (or was it "counter", the terms confuse me at times!) the other night...

Anyway... here is the exaggerated version:
1. Travelling in a straight line on a reasonably flat surface.
2. Stand up out of the saddle.
3. Tilt/tip/angulate/... the bike over to the left - the bike will start to turn.
4. Tilt/tip/angulate/... your upper body to the right so that the bike goes straight again.

Then I tried it by tipping the bike to the left, and just shifting my hips to the right.
Then I also tried it while seated.

Now, I've no idea if this has a practical application in skiing, because I was only able to "control" a straight line. Controlling a turn took a lot of work, so it did not seem a valid way of enjoying riding. (no, I didn't fall off)
Also, the "separation" was more in terms of Bike/body rather than Lower/Upper body.

I'm selling the bike next week when I leave France, and then I'll be back to trying these experiments on a good racer rather than a cheap mountain bike.
post #72 of 77
Und of course, ze Herminator - '03 Tour de France prologue.


post #73 of 77
That's the picture I was looking for when I saw Martin's link to the FIS website.

In the these guys are good department, I was watchin stage 16 or maybe 17 of last years tour and they had a helicopter shot of one guy who went over a big climb. He had the zipper stuck as he was trying to put his vest on. He took a couple of big turns at high speeds no hands. I didn't Dartfish him though, so I can't tell you what his primary movements were.
post #74 of 77
That link was not to the Herminator though...
post #75 of 77
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That link was not to the Herminator though...
Oh, I followed the link, but my first thoughts were FIS+cycling = Herminator
post #76 of 77

work of others

Too much interesting stuff on how single track vehicles turn and go straight is contained at this link.
http://www.tonyfoale.com/
Don't worry, Skidded turns are the same on skis as they are in an airplane or on two wheels. Even better is power skid, a la speedway bikes! Weee Haaa!

CalG
post #77 of 77
Previous discussions on Leipheimer here:
http://forums.epicski.com/showthread.php?t=27683

Also, the Canadian ski team staged their own tour this summer, Lake Louise to Whistler (1,000 kilometres):
http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Skiing/200...202805-cp.html
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