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post #31 of 48
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Originally Posted by Rio View Post
Maybe where you live, but around here they make a great pair with the Mojo 90 being your everyday ski and the Gotamas your big powder day ski.
Many people consider both the Mojo and the goats an every day ski for the west. As others have noted, there are much better powder skis than the goats out there.
post #32 of 48
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As others have noted, there are much better powder skis than the goats out there.
I'll disagree on that one. The Gotamas are by far the easiest turning powder skis out there. They'res not ideal for someone who does super-G turns in powder but for those of us that do lots of turning in powder due to style or where they ski, they can't be matched.
post #33 of 48
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Rio, thanks for the input. As you can see, that was my original thought. Anyone else feel there is enough difference between the two?
post #34 of 48
I have got both.

After skiing the Gots you will never want to go back on the Mojos. At your height and weight don't be shy to go for a 190 length - they are really shorter than tagged and ski like that.
post #35 of 48
Personally I really really really dislike the mojo 90's but I know tons of people who love it. But either way the 90 is much different than the Goat, the 90 is pretty much too stiff and has much too far forward of a mountpoint to be effective in powder (imo).
post #36 of 48
honestly, i think anything you get that's 94mm + will be fine.

the 2005/2006 fairly "epic" season i used a pair of 177 Mantras exclusively as my powder ski. Of course I was coming off having skied Rossi 7S's as my only ski, so going from someting in the 60s to the 90s was a big jump. I loved the Mantra in Utah and Cali, had a blast on it. It floated much better than anything else I'd been on, including the 87mm Karma I also purchased that season.

this season, what with less fluff and more gruff (ice, groomers) I found the 177 a bit short and squirrely. I picked up a pair of King Salmons (very similar dimensions, 3mm wider, and a bit stiffer, I believe). I have loved these much better and they work great as an almost every day ski and also slay ankle deep powder something fairly fierce.

that said, I also plunked down on a pair of Spatulas, which totally SLAY anything deeper than your ankle. Plus they're fun as hell. Now I know quite a few folks don't cotton to the surfy feel, preferring to dig deep and actually "feel" the powder, but for my money ($400) they are the funnest ski I own.

At any rate, the point of my post was that if you're a solid enough skier you can make do with anything in powder. It's just that some of the fatter/wider skis out there are more fun.

When I was in Colo this year most of the folks I was riding with were on mid 70 and mid 80s skis, even in fresh. I was on my 94 KS's and another rider (Brkln) was on 99mm Bros, but most folks were riding stuff well under 90mm and killing it better than me (granted a lot of the folks I was riding with were instructors, but still).

I think you can survive and enjoy powder on something 94mm - 100, easily, but the stuff over 105 and up to 136 will be hella fun if the snow is worthy.

post #37 of 48
I survived and enjoyed powder as a 220 lb fat ass last year on my 171 centermounted 1080s (78-80? waist). It is pretty hard not to enjoy powder.
post #38 of 48
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Originally Posted by Rio View Post
I'll disagree on that one. The Gotamas are by far the easiest turning powder skis out there. They'res not ideal for someone who does super-G turns in powder but for those of us that do lots of turning in powder due to style or where they ski, they can't be matched.
I ride 183's and believe them to insanely easy to ski. However... 185 or even 195 praxis have got to be easier.

Since the intro of real pow-specific skis (rockered/reverse sidecut) the gotamas no longer rule the pow-specific realm. They are contenders, however, in the resort realm.
post #39 of 48
So the obvious next question is if there are any 183 goats kicking around and for sale?
post #40 of 48

how about ANTS

Lots of talk lately about gots and guns. How about Armanda Ants? Comes only in 191 cm, 106 waist, full twin. Never skied 'em myself, but lots of mags love them.
post #41 of 48
I heard that the ANTS ski extremely, extremely short. Other than that I don't know much.
post #42 of 48
not extremely extremely short. they ski longer than a 183 goat. Mount line is really far forward. Carves very nice, tip and tail med-stiff under foot stiff. Awesome ski
post #43 of 48
I have a pair of ANTs, and love them, however, they are NOT powder skis. They have far too much camber, combined with the fact that most of the ski is fairly stiff, they just will not decamber in pow. This leaves you feeling like you're skiing on your tips and tails and the rest isn't even touching the snow.

They rule a couple days after a pow day, or the day after a smaller pow day, in crud, hard pack, crust, etc, but are not a pow ski.

They ski shorter than their 191 length would indicate, sort of softer flexing in the tip and tail, which make them pretty forgiving and easy to ski, but the stiff part underfoot keeps them pretty damn stable. Also, they are pretty damp, but the large amount of camber keeps them feeling lively.

Awesome skis, but NOT a pow ski.


If you have a 90mm waisted ski, go big for your pow day only ski. Think about it, you're looking for a powder day only ski right? So what advantages does a slightly narrower ski have on a powder day? None. Go at least 110mm (that would be ok in longer lengths if you like to ski fast) or probably 120+.
post #44 of 48
Thanks, nice analysis MAGGOT.
post #45 of 48
I'd just like to point out that none of the skis discussed thusfar would be any good on an icy slalom course.
post #46 of 48
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I'd just like to point out that none of the skis discussed thusfar would be any good on an icy slalom course.
we need to fix that!!!!:

Did you know Beer is made from Grain?
post #47 of 48
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Did you know Beer is made from Grain?
I'm from Wisconsin - I learned that in, like, Kindergarten.
post #48 of 48
I agree with what most have stated here, too much overlap going with Gots and Mojos. I'd go for a pair of Praxis' or the the Prophet 130's.
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