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Conditions at Mt Hood?

post #1 of 28
Thread Starter 
Curious to know how Mt Hood is holding up because I am seriously considering going to race camp at the end of August. Thanks
post #2 of 28
cant predict that far ahead for you, but i went 2 august's ago and i wasn't impressed enough with mt. hood to consider going back.

unless race camp is pretty cheap or you've been before in august and know what to expect, i'd just go to ski and see if you like it.

i'd prefer just heading up any snowcapped mountain around tahoe a looking for a decent skiable patch vs. mt. hood during summer, but thats just 1 opinion.
post #3 of 28
Minor factor to take into account:

Two seasons ago was the worst snow year in the Pacific Northwest since people have been skiing.

Last season was pretty good.
post #4 of 28
Hood isn't fairing all that well this summer. If I was to do a camp I'd shoot for earlier than August. I'll be going up in a few weeks and let you know the conditions.
post #5 of 28
It's warming up faster than usual, so I'm not counting on doing any skiing August...The weekend after July, 4th will probably be it for me until winter. It's just not worth the effort that late.

We are expecting some snowfall in the middle of this week, but who knows what that will bring us as far as skiing.
post #6 of 28
I skied Hood Memorial Day and they had plenty of snow. The Palmer snow field, that's the upper area, was in great shape and there was good skiing all the way to the lodge.
post #7 of 28
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Originally Posted by quickfoot View Post
I skied Hood Memorial Day and they had plenty of snow. The Palmer snow field, that's the upper area, was in great shape and there was good skiing all the way to the lodge.
How was it off to the skiers right of Palmer snowfeild? That's where I like to slide. High speed suncups.
post #8 of 28
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High speed suncups.
You mean inverted moguls???
post #9 of 28
The Palmer skiers right was the place after the sun softened it a bit. Nice and smooth, good spring corn and not to many rocks sticking out yet. The upper half, loading at midstation was the ticket.
post #10 of 28
I saw this thread and because of it I sent an email message to a friend who is a ski patroller that patrols Timberline in the summers. He hasn't been up in a while, but says the snow pack is good this year and expects the conditions on Palmer to hold up pretty good for at least a couple more months.

He's hoping to go up in a few weeks, so I'll get his take on what he sees then.

I'm guessing, and this is only a guess, that at the end of the summer, the only thing they'll have going on up there is the upper half of Palmer. I.E. you'll load on to the chairlift at the midstation that quickfoot was refering to.

(The "midstation": Palmer lift is a high speed quad running from 7000 feet up to 8600 feet. Half way up Palmer the chairlift drops down to "ground" level where the chairs detach momentarily so skiers can load there instead of at the bottom of Palmer.)
post #11 of 28
Thread Starter 
Thanks Dave!
post #12 of 28

One last hooray, anyone?

The Timberline ski resort has a special environmental permit that allows them to spray salt on their slopes. The salt initially melts the snow but the melting point is pushed up above 32 F when it refreezes (at night) causing treated-slopes to remain firm longer. Without the salt-application, I reckon TB will be forced to close the Palmer glacier earlier and may not be able to extend their season well into the late summer. Hose/wash the salt away from your skis afterwards if you are anal about your ski-eq.

I see that the ski season for at least a couple of PDX-mags are not yet over …ski bums (i.e. memosteve & slider 4 sure)! I thought my season was over but now I’ve caught your bug. How about we (or anyone who can) coordinate and make a trip up there for one last hooray (for me anyway). We can test our mettle right beside the World’s elite skiers and see how we (don’t) measure up!
post #13 of 28
How's the 16 or 17 of this month work? I'll see if I can get (photog) Mattitude to go up too.
post #14 of 28
Slider,

Yeah, this coming weekend sounds good to me!
post #15 of 28
I promised the wife to go see the "Bodyworks" exhibit at OMSI this Saturday, so I won't be able to make it. I will be up for some turns next weekend.

You guys have a blast and get some pics.
post #16 of 28
mosteve we be going next weekend. Sat. the 16th. so come on up. Matt will be riding up with me to get pictures.
post #17 of 28
Richie-Rich -

Went up to Timberline skiing today (generally I work Mon-Thr). I talked to several people (literally 5) about the conditions and how they think the skiing will be in late August. A few people seemed to know what they were talking about, and I tossed out the opinions of those who were new to the scene (I asked how long they've been associated with skiing at Timberline in the summer). Here's what I have...

- Current snow pack is considered average compared with year's past. Season should last through August. Sometimes it will go through to mid-September.

- By the end of August, the snow will have melted down into a small patch on the top half of the Palmer lift.

- Conditions at the end of August will be warm and wet, hence really "sticky" (slow) to ski.

Personally, I don't like skiing "sticky" (warm & wet) snow. Given that, I wouldn't attend a race camp at the end of August. I hate to say that, because I don't like saying anything that deflects business away from Timberline and the people conducting the camps (on the other hand, they do have an obligation to give a quality product...). Go only if you're desperate to ski, you're bored with yourself, and you have money to burn. Or go because sticky snow doesn't bother you.

Regarding the conditions today on Palmer: I arrived at the top of the Palmer chair this morning at 8:30am. Skiing was good until about 10:30am when it started to get a bit sticky on the top half of Palmer. Unfortunately, I got hungry and went in at that time for an early lunch. When I got back on Palmer at 11:30am, the snow was fairly sticky, so I did about 3 more runs and decided to call it a day. I was disappointed.

I wish I would have been up on the mountain at 7:00am this morning. I got in 4 or 5 hours of great skiing on Memorial Day (skied 8:45am to 1:30pm), so I was disappointed that I didn't have that kind of a day today. However, I've had good days as late as the 4th of July up there in the past, so I will definitely be back a least a couple more times this spring.

Dave
post #18 of 28
Thread Starter 
Dave, I greatly appreciate your report! Thank you.
post #19 of 28
Is anyone hitting Hood this weekend?
post #20 of 28
I'll be up Sat. with Matt. Yo.
post #21 of 28
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Originally Posted by Boar2m View Post
The Timberline ski resort has a special environmental permit that allows them to spray salt on their slopes. The salt initially melts the snow but the melting point is pushed up above 32 F when it refreezes (at night) causing treated-slopes to remain firm longer. Without the salt-application, I reckon TB will be forced to close the Palmer glacier earlier and may not be able to extend their season well into the late summer. Hose/wash the salt away from your skis afterwards if you are anal about your ski-eq.

I see that the ski season for at least a couple of PDX-mags are not yet over …ski bums (i.e. memosteve & slider 4 sure)! I thought my season was over but now I’ve caught your bug. How about we (or anyone who can) coordinate and make a trip up there for one last hooray (for me anyway). We can test our mettle right beside the World’s elite skiers and see how we (don’t) measure up!
they don't spray salt , they spread water softening salt in the early am with a modified snow cat. they groom the the slopes as soon as the skiing day is over then they wait untill the early morning to apply the the salt. what the salt does is ; when applied the salt crystal melts the firn crystals and the resulting water flows down away from the the top surface of the snow , this also pulls away the heat that is in the snow. removing the heat actually refreezes the top layer of snow surface. on the training lanes salt is applied manually by hand to the ski courses. there is a window in the morning when the skiing is just right . if you get there too early the surface is like boiler plate and if you get there too late it is like skiing mashed potatoes.
post #22 of 28
Yes, you’re absolutely right – Timberline ”spread” salt!

The only point I wanted to convey really was that deicing-salt is corrosive to metal and that it doesn’t hurt to wipe the metal-edges off after skiing. Also I was not trying to diss Timberline’s environmental stewardship. The benefit of summer skiing totally outweighs any negative repercussions caused by spreading salt imho.

I went up to Timberline on 16th as their early morning report indicated clear sky. By the time I got up, about 75 minutes later, the condition changed to windy, light rain, and lousy visibility. I went back down to the valley! My fault …I should have known better from the over-all regional forecast!

Slider and whoever wanted to come up but didn’t made the right choice regardless of their reasons…
post #23 of 28

More Recent Info?

Does anyone has more recent info about conditions at Hood? Would like to ski a few days in early August.
post #24 of 28
I'll be there July 28th for sure and will post a TR when I get back.
post #25 of 28
Found some photos from someone who was there this past Sunday, July 15th:
http://flickr.com/photos/67032332@N00/tags/july152007/

I've never been, so not sure if this is better or worse than usual for this time of year. Lots of rain in the forecast over the next few days, though. :-/
post #26 of 28
Thread Starter 
Looks like a great place to wreck a nice set of race skis......now I know why one needs training skis.
post #27 of 28
Well, the lower section looks pretty sketchy in the photos but the Palmer Snow Field should still be fine though it tends to soften considerably in the late morning. A little new snow, which can occur even in July, would cover up the abrasive rock dust that tends to blow onto the Palmer Field when other parts of the mountain lose snow. Once the Magic Mile (below Palmer) looses its snow cover, you can catch the MM lift down to the base and avoid all those rocks that show in the photos.
post #28 of 28
I was up at Timberline this past Saturday, July 28th. It was my first time, but it was a lot of fun and the skiing was surprisingly good. The public lane (and everything down below the midstation) got pretty slushy later in the day, but they opened up the race lanes as the camps finished up and the conditions on those were better.

Here are some photos:
http://flickr.com/photos/rachelv/set...7601107104956/
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