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post #31 of 43

From the horse's mouth...

B R:

Here's the response from my product guy at the North American office for Head. It sounds like that website is wrong.

Hey, Bob.

There is no aircoat technology in the monster 88. The only thing that has changed in the ski from a structural standpoint is the sidewall material. The sidewalls are now made from abs plastic, and are way more durable. The only monster with aircoat in it is the monster 95 ob. Let me know if you need anything else. Have a good summer.
post #32 of 43
Curious as to how the Snoops feel in comparison to something like the Mojo90's
post #33 of 43
Thread Starter 

IM88's delivered

Skies arrived the other day.

I'm putting Rossignol Axial2 120 Ti Pro's on them.

Any tips on binding placement? Just put them on the boot center mark?

Any idea what the top sheet is made of? They look flat, but when you run your finger down them they make a humming noise, like they have small ribs going from one side to the other? Just curious.

Thanks for all the feedback.
post #34 of 43
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Originally Posted by B R View Post
Any tips on binding placement? Just put them on the boot center mark?

Thanks for all the feedback.
See: http://forums.epicski.com/showthread...onster+binding

Michael
post #35 of 43
I would mount them on the line unless you have a reason to do otherwise. Mounting forward makes a ski more turny. This isn't a great thing for a ski like the iM88. Mounting back probably isn't a great idea either if you value the usability on piste. Strangely, even though the post linked was about the IM88 I don't think most of the advice is very relevant to ski like the 88. I would mount a carving ski up at Ball of Foot. A one ski quiver / all mountain / crud ski like the 88, no way.
post #36 of 43
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Originally Posted by Bob Peters View Post
B R:

Here's the response from my product guy at the North American office for Head. It sounds like that website is wrong.

Hey, Bob.

There is no aircoat technology in the monster 88. The only thing that has changed in the ski from a structural standpoint is the sidewall material. The sidewalls are now made from abs plastic, and are way more durable. The only monster with aircoat in it is the monster 95 ob. Let me know if you need anything else. Have a good summer.
http://www.head.com/ski/technology.p...us&tag=aircoat
post #37 of 43
I used the IM 88s at Alta for the first time and there was no searching for balance you get with a new ski. They felt like I've been skiing them forever, and they work well in all conditions. I'm overjoyed with them.
post #38 of 43
Just got back from bariloche with my new snoop daddys. Definately a fun ski. Soft feel but with a great edge.
post #39 of 43
I did think the mount looked to far back, but I went ahead and mounted at the mark and it skied perfect
post #40 of 43
Thread Starter 

Finally out on the ski

With 18" of snow this week, I finally took out the iM88's.

Me: 5'10", 160 lbs. aggressive skier
Skis: Metron B5 in 162 and PE in 169. iM's in 175
Where: 3 days at Waterville Valley, all hard pack, no ice.


First impression: I over-tuned these skis. I went from the factory 1 degree to a 2 degree side edge. At first, they were really hooky at the tip. De-tuning may have helped. But after 3 runs, I either adapted or the skis de-tuned from the hard pack underneath. Either way, no more problems.

This ski is the longest ski I've been on in quite a few years. The skis surprised me how they hold an edge. Also surprising was the quickness from edge to edge. By the end of the day, I was very comfortable on these skis and turning was more fun each run down the hill. A day of skiing was a lot less tiring than I'm used to

They are the most stable ski I've ever been on. The trail was perfectly groomed (if there is such a thing) and I was able to ski with more control, more speed and after learning to trust the ski, had amazing edge hold at speed.

These skis don't replace the Metrons, but those won't be coming out unless I know there's going to be wind blown boiler plate ice on much of the hill. As far as the PE's go, I don't know when I'll use them anymore. The 88's do everything the PE's do plus hold an edge a lot better.

I have 4 years and 120+ days on my Metron's and will be replacing them at the end of the year. I am now thinking of replacing them with the new Nexon line or the iM78's. I like the 88's so much, maybe I should stick with the im78's instead of the nexon's. Is it the sandwich construction that I'm liking so much in the 88's? The 88 has a level of stability I haven't felt in a ski before.
post #41 of 43
Hi BR

Normally just increasing the side edge bevel form 1 to 2 should not make the ski hooky unless you didn't knock the hanging burr off that is created anytime you file and/or diamond stone your side edge.

I changed my i.m88 to a true 2 degree and they skied perfectly. You must run a stone flat down the base edge as your final tuning step after finishing (setting and polishing) your side edge.

There has been much posted about this by alpinord and me. if you search hanging burr I am sure there is an abundance of info.
post #42 of 43
Thread Starter 
That could certainly be the case. It may also explain why it corrected itself; or at least corrected itself enough that I didn't notice it anymore after a few runs.

I tuned them again after Sunday, I'll make sure I run a stone down the base before taking them out this weekend and see if I can feel the difference.

Good start to the season!!
post #43 of 43
Great ski isn't it! I have anew pair of 186's I am gonna share with my older son but still have my 175's
Just put your ski in a vie bases facing away form you. Put the storen flat against the base edge wiht about 1/4 of the stone up abve the side edge.

Tilt the stone slightly to match your 1 degree so it is in contact with the base edge. this is the one time I push the stone rather then pullling it. I alos use my thumb as a quasi guide up on of the side wall of the ski. I push the stoen with medium pressure. from tail to tip, flip the ski around and the do the other edge for tip tp tail.
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