Originally Posted by SierraJim
You are starting to chase your tail a bit. A little focus would not be a bad thing here. Consider............
When you go on vacation, will this be the only ski you take? keep in mind that the west is not always really deep snow. In fact it rarely is deep enough to really need a full fat ski. Not that you can't ski a fat ski on packed slopes, you can.....they just don't really excell there.
When at home in the east, how often will you use this ski? You have some excellent skis already. If you decide that you really want a fat ski and you want it to hold well on hard snow too, the two best from that list are the Mantra and the Sugar Daddy. Honestly, if you decide that you want a fat ski, my advice is get one that will fit your preferences for deep stuff and ignore the rest. If you want a ski for the conditions as originally stated, then I personally wouldn't choose a fat ski.
I own several fat skis and like them all for various things. However, if forced to choose one pr. of skis.....it would be in the range of 84-88mm from the ones I have mentioned. I ski in the west and and ski 90% off trail when conditions remotely permit it. However, I lived in Stowe for three seasons and understand eastern conditions quite well.
Also, are you now shopping next year's gear? At first, it seemed that you were researching leftover and sale prices.
What do you really want?
Guilty as charged.
I am all over the place right now. I've been looking at reviews all day and it seems every time I look at something new, it prompts new questions (and new wants).
And I think I've come full circle.
I went to Utah last year (first trip out west, 35 years of skiing) with 169 PE's. Utah got over 3' of snow while I was there; with some places drifting upwards of 4'. The PE's were great in those conditions and had enough float. Not having skied in real POW before, I thought the PE's performed wonderfully.
Next year the whole family comes out. We're looking at places to stay and plane reservations now. I'm going to need something for my 17 yo (5'9", 135 lbs). I figured the PE's would be good for him and I'd upgrade (ohhh, feeling guilty - but not too much, he has 5 pairs of skis already). I see an open window to buy another set of skis, and I'm going to take full advantage of that
So, what was missing from the PE's I'd like to see in a new ski? Longer and more edge control on hard pack. I do take the PE's out quite a bit in the east; and would like the new ski to come out and play in the east too.
I'll probably lose the PE's if my son likes them. This is probably his last year racing and he may want something other than FIS compliant skis after that.
Having said all that I'm probably back to looking at my original skis, Snoops or IM88 (although the Mantra doesn't look bad either).
With all the looking around, I saw that Head has changed their 88 this year and am curious if it's still like last years model or more like the new 95.
I hope this brings some clarity about my wants and needs for skis.