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post #31 of 52
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Originally Posted by efendy View Post
As a last thing , which ski can i ride and control more easily and have less speed? also there is i think 2-3 year or may be much more age difference between skis.
Look for tip width dimension ~110mm, not much less,
turn radius dimension 15-18m, not more, after that, its all about sharpening and lessons.
post #32 of 52
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Look for tip width dimension ~110mm, not much less,
turn radius dimension 15-18m, not more, after that, its all about sharpening and lessons.
Thank you comprex, it was a great bothering event of mine for one two days. I hope i'll find the right ski and post the feedbacks while you wait for the season in summer
cheers
post #33 of 52
Thread Starter 

found a bargain? K2 Axis XT 181cm

I found these for $250 AUD brand new with bindings: http://tinyurl.com/36c84h
The thing is these suit my budget. If they suit my dimensions and ability I want to get them, any ideas?
thanks a bunch
post #34 of 52
^^^
Looks good to me.
post #35 of 52
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^^^
Looks good to me.
Thank you ghost

have you had any experience with this or a similar ski?

cheers
post #36 of 52
I haven't personally skied the Axis XT but it's generally well regarded and at your weight, the 181 seems like a workable size (though the 174 cm length could be easier for an intermediate). Similar to the current Apache Crossfire. Looks like the best pick from what you've identified so far, certainly would be one you can "grow into" and continue enjoying as you advance in skill.

See these threads, and try searching for others:

http://forums.epicski.com/showthread.php?t=21858

http://forums.epicski.com/showthread.php?t=3663 (“probably a great ski for Oz”)

Some info from another review site: "Extremely versatile cross ski, with strong off-piste capability, Smooth, Quiet, powerful, surprisingly quick, even OK in moderate bumps with skilled skier aboard."
post #37 of 52
Thread Starter 
Thank you TS01

I was reading the second one you've given, but somehow i missed the first review.

in one of them a friend says it is not as beefy as Xp model, so it's a good thing right

And somebody else suggest a lifter plate, i'll try to work on that.

What i've found so far are always either 180's or 160's. that's probably caused by my low budget
thanks again!
post #38 of 52
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Originally Posted by efendy View Post
And somebody else suggest a lifter plate, i'll try to work on that.

Don't bother for now.
post #39 of 52
I agree with tso1, Ghost and Comprex. I think 174 cm would be plenty
post #40 of 52
Axis XT is agood ski, you won't be making a mistake by buying.
post #41 of 52
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Originally Posted by efendy View Post
Thank you ghost

have you had any experience with this or a similar ski?

cheers
I haven't tried that particular ski, though I have been on some with similar characteristics. The turn radius is small enough to make turning easy for you, but not so small as to cause problems for you. Judging by the reviews I have read it should have enough beef to give satisfying performance, and still be forgiving enough to make learning enjoyable. If you were doing more off-piste I would say go wider, but it's a good ski for groomed slopes. The only thing according to all the reviews is you might find yourself developing a bit of an addiction for speed with these skis.

BTW Realskiers.com has the best reviews I've found of lots of older skis for a yearly membership fee of 20 bucks. Their reviews of skis I have tested and owned are pretty much right on the money.
post #42 of 52
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Don't bother for now.
Yes sir, no problem!

these skis are very much like the ones you told me in the earlier posts: "a nice little something in 170-175cm, with a shape of 109/66/98 or near there"

"Look for tip width dimension ~110mm, not much less,
turn radius dimension 15-18m, not more, after that, its all about sharpening and lessons."

except the length.

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Originally Posted by nevils View Post
I agree with tso1, Ghost and Comprex. I think 174 cm would be plenty
I really would love to go for 174 but the guy only has 181cm which is irresistible for $250 AUD.

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Originally Posted by nevils View Post
Axis XT is agood ski, you won't be making a mistake by buying.
They look good too,

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Originally Posted by Ghost View Post
I haven't tried that particular ski, though I have been on some with similar characteristics. The turn radius is small enough to make turning easy for you, but not so small as to cause problems for you. Judging by the reviews I have read it should have enough beef to give satisfying performance, and still be forgiving enough to make learning enjoyable. If you were doing more off-piste I would say go wider, but it's a good ski for groomed slopes. The only thing according to all the reviews is you might find yourself developing a bit of an addiction for speed with these skis.

BTW Realskiers.com has the best reviews I've found of lots of older skis for a yearly membership fee of 20 bucks. Their reviews of skis I have tested and owned are pretty much right on the money.
I'll be skiing on groomers so they suit the terrain. as TS01've pointed out, this ski would be very suitable for Oz as somebody said in a review given above.

realskiers.com. I had a look at that it looked very comprehensive. I'd give it a go. since I am a learner, i'd get most out of it.

Thank you all for all the replies and useful comments. you are great!
Cheers
post #43 of 52
Thread Starter 
I forgot one point.

this guys has got the K2 axis as well, not TX one. Do you guys think there is much difference in terms of forgivingness?

Seller in his email tells me that it'd be a bit long for my height, but height shouldn't be a issue here over weight, right?

Cheers!
post #44 of 52
Thread Starter 
Hi! me again

First thing first, I've subscribed to realskiers.com, it's a good site but reviews are a bit short, but ok i got what i need. i'll need some stuff for ski technique as well.

I went to buy my axis xt 182 cm's today. the seller has got a few other skis which i thought are worth to ask about.

first, she's got a "Dalbello CRX Impulse Custom" boot ($175) which fits my foot very well. boots fit much better than my new rossi axium boots which i bought for $180.

Rossi axium (2005 - 2006)Dalbello custom crx impulse (2004 probably, the one i am looking at is black)

Dalbello was used once and returned back according to the seller. it's got a few scratches and inner boot is certainly not packed out, it's as new.
This boot has got micro adjustable clamps, some adjustment at the base for carving. walking, skiing, carving modes, and leaning adjustment. one adjustment at sides, i dont know what they are for.
it looks superior than my basic rossi axium which i would return them,
what are your thoughts guys?

Second, I have a little list to get your thoughts about

1. Dynastar skicross 9 in 162 cm (2004 - 2005) - $250 without bindings (lifter plate inclusive). they sold the bindings seperately without knowing .
can i only use look p10 bindings or another binding works for that (she's got marker bindings). simply, is it worth bothering to find bindings?



2. Dynastar skicross 9 in 178 cm (2003-2004) - $250 withouth bindings. (lifter plate inclusive). same story here.



3. dynastar agyl 9 in 178 cm with bindings (marker i guess). - $250



4. K2 axis xt in 181 cm - $250, you know this one from yesterday anyway.



I appreciate any thoughts, thanks in advance!
cheers
post #45 of 52
No thoughts on boots; you're the best judge of fit, remember every boot will "pack out" so start on the tight side.

On skis:

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Originally Posted by efendy View Post
1. Dynastar skicross 9 in 162 cm
Great ski for your purposes, but too short.

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Originally Posted by efendy View Post
2. Dynastar skicross 9 in 178 cm (2003-2004) - $250 withouth bindings. (lifter plate inclusive). same story here.
Great ski for your purposes, good length, no real difference between the 03/04 and later models other than the topsheet.

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Originally Posted by efendy View Post
3. dynastar agyl 9 in 178 cm with bindings (marker i guess). - $250
Beginner / rental ski you're likely to grow out of. Many people, myself included, dislike marker bindings, especially the cheaper ones.

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Originally Posted by efendy View Post
4. K2 axis xt in 181 cm - $250, you know this one from yesterday anyway.
Still a good choice but not as good as the Dynastar SC9 / 178.

I'm partial to Dynastars, especially models like the SkiCross 9 which are one step down from the top performance ski in a series (in that case, the SkiCross 10). While they're forgiving and well suited to advancing your skills, they also have great hold in icy conditions will carve as hard and fast as you'd like.

Binding question, I don't know if the SkiCross 9 requires a Look binding (or Rossi, which is identical), or can take a Marker. Personally I'd look for the Look (no pun intended), regardless.
post #46 of 52
Aaaargh. Markers on a Dynastar ! Aaaaauuugh.
post #47 of 52
Thread Starter 
TS01,

Thank you for your invaluable recommendations!

I thought the same, i was between 162 and 178 for sc 9 after i read this user review though.

"My first shaped ski. Hadnt skied for 6 years. 5' 8 inches, 200 lbs. Got a great deal at sports authority and went with the 162's. What a blast. I have found these skis to be very forgiving in learning the new technique (for me) of carving ( they will allow some skidding). Ice? No problem. Spring conditions? Beautiful. It is so much less work skiing these skis then my old pencil skis. I am skiing faster and better than I ever have."

he is very new to shaped skis though.

for the boots, only difference is dalbello's are tighter and have got many adjustments, so i'm on the right path i guess.
post #48 of 52
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by philippeR View Post
Aaaargh. Markers on a Dynastar ! Aaaaauuugh.
Very good depiction of the situation

Here is Oz, everything is possible, (no offense)

She's got some look bindings as well, i saw them too. but she has no idea which one to go for.

SC9 + Bindings (might be either look or marker) = $350

Axis XT + marker bindings = $250

which one is better?

I'd guess the answer

Forget about the above
post #49 of 52
Thread Starter 
TS01,
I was just comparing dimensions of cs9 2005 and cs9 2003, they are a bit different.

cs9 2005 = 110/69/98 (17m)

cs9 2003 = 105/66/94 (18m)

but sidecut would be similar i guess?
post #50 of 52
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Originally Posted by efendy View Post
TS01,
I was just comparing dimensions of cs9 2005 and cs9 2003, they are a bit different.

cs9 2005 = 110/69/98 (17m)

cs9 2003 = 105/66/94 (18m)

but sidecut would be similar i guess?
I stand corrected. The 02/03 version of the SC9 (yellow topsheet) was a bit narrower. It's the 03/04 and 04/05 versions that were identical, and a bit wider (i.e, the 110/69/98 cut). The wider one may be a bit more versatile, but I'd guess they're both fine skis for your purposes.
post #51 of 52
I pretty much agree with TS01.

The 162 cm ski is too short for your weight.

The ski cross 9 in a 178 should be good. I have been on the the ski cross 10 and it's a perfectly acceptable ski. Since you are a member, go the realskiers site and click on reviews for the 2003-2004 Dynastars and look at the differences between the 9 and 10. You will see by the icons that the 9 adds a green schussing skier icon, where as the 10 only has the black and blue ones. That means that the 9 is forgiving enough for people still learning how to carve, but it still has the black icon. I have found that skis I have tried that have a black icon on this site are beefy enough to give satisfying performance, but ones that don't haven't been. You will aslo see that the 9 isn't up to racing, but is better for bumps. For you, the 9 is probably better than the 10.

The Agyl 9 would be quickly outgrown (Realskiers agrees, note the absence of blue or green shussing skiers)

Between the Axis Xt and the skicross 9, I'm guessing that if you like to go fast and might see some gates get the XT and if you like to play in moguls get the 9, but it's only a guess. (The icons on realskiers seem to think so too.)

As far as boots go, get the ones that have the best grip on your feet without crushing them.

Happy skiing.
post #52 of 52
Thread Starter 
TS01 and Ghost,

thank you for your time, i was sleeping so couldn't reply earlier

TS01,

i put the wrong date for the sc9 2002-2203 in the first post, so my mistake.

i need to find bindings for sc9 to be able to go for it, otherwise i'll go for the axis xt. my preference mainly depends on the availability.

i am confident since they are both good skis.
i wish i could have an access to 2004-2005 sc9 in 170 or a bit longer though

thank you
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