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post #1 of 52
Thread Starter 
As of this May, I will have the option to work anywhere in the country (Registered Nurse). I currently live in Florida and while it has it's perks, I NEED TO SKI! I am tired of having to use vacation time and money for complicated ski trips. Hence, I am looking to relocate somewhere that offers awesome skiing. I need info, more then facts and figures I can get on the internet, on places I can ski, preferably out west. West of Florida that is. Any help, (ie: info on the locals, weather, cost of living, how hellacious the tourists are, consistent ski conditions etc.) would be great.
post #2 of 52
Do you want to be in a city near skiing, or are you looking for a small ski town?
post #3 of 52
Would you consider Canada?
post #4 of 52
I can only comment on the places I have visited. If you are willing to go to Canada I would seriously look at Vancouver. You have a major city that has skifields close enough to go for a ski after work, or during the day if you are doing shifts. nTehn for a weekend trip you have Whistler/Blackcomb just a couple of hours north. Apparently it rains a lot there, but both times I've been there the weather was great, maybe we just struck it lucky.
post #5 of 52
Of course the fun thing is that in fact *anybody* can live anywhere they want! It just takes the desire and courage. Good luck in your search. I would recommend big mountains, with small resorts . . . where they don't speak French! :
post #6 of 52
It takes courage and desire for sure, and a little bit of money. Lots of people in this world cannot afford to go and live wherever they want, fortunate are those who can dream and realize.
post #7 of 52
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Todd Murchison:
I would recommend big mountains, with small resorts . . . where they don't speak French! :<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Todd, what do you mean by that??? Do you have something against French people?
post #8 of 52
It actually doesn't take money to travel and live in different places, that viewpoint is why Americans do so little of it! You see Europeans traveling with just a backpack all over the world, working odd jobs and having fun before settling down to a 'real' job back at home.

French people? Well, I lived for three years in Germany a couple of klicks from the French boarder and spent a great deal of time in France both on and off the beaten (touristed) trail. I also lived in nothern Vermont just a few miles from Quebec for a couple of years. Anyways, I'll defer a direct answer with a quote from our current President: "I have opinions, strong opinions - but I don't always agree with them".
post #9 of 52
Tell us how often you want to ski. Every day, every weekend, for 4 days every 10 days? Do you want to live in a large city, smal city/town or a resort? What other sports do you do? That will help us tell you where you should live.
Some answers Salt Lake City, Denver, Portland OR (if you windsurf), Sun Valley (if you like groomers and want to party) Aspen, Vail, Jackson Hole, Lake tahoe area
Less obvious answers: Boise, Spokane, Missoula, Seattle, Bozeman, Bend (if you rock climb),
post #10 of 52
Burlington, VT. One of the best knee surgery departments in the country. And lots of drunk college kids to stitch up. Drove friends to that emergency room more times than I can count.

You've got to decide if you want to live IN a ski town, or NEAR one. May be difficult to find a position at one of the smaller local clinics...but good luck to you ;^)
post #11 of 52
Yup, Vancouver's pretty cool. I still have lottery dreams of that slopeside home in Whistler, though...

Until about 1986, the Expo year, when Whistler and the Alaska cruise industry really took off, I just thought the place was kind of a hole 'cause it rained so much. I guess I never traveled much. Sure there were lots of beaches and places to ski nearby, but it couldn't be nearly as awesome as all those places the ski mags spoke of like Colorado and Utah... could it? I suppose several million tourists a year couldn't be wrong. And when Whistler started popping up in the ski mags as #1, I was frankly flabbergasted. The "local" atmosphere is now gone, and the prices have sky rocketed, but I gotta admit all the high speed lifts and increased terrain are pretty cool. I'm glad we got our time share when we did; the 1 br place we stay in now rents for for $800/night!

Come to Vancouver, and you too can sail or paddle in the morning, and work the day before hopping straight on the #10 bus to Grouse Mtn to ski a few runs before a late supper. Whistler weekends are just 1 1/2hrs away. Many find the liberal attitude toward many issues here quite refreshing as well.
post #12 of 52
Todd,
My2c's about French speaking places: If you go live in places with foreign tongue you got to learn that, especially in France (and Quebec, AFAIK). Generally speaking, they apreciate you speaking French as much as they snob you if you don't.
BTW: Where in Germany did you live? I spent almost 10 years in Karlsruhe - going over the boarder to France there puts the term "generally" in the right perspective... In the Alsace, provided you understand the heavy accent, it seems you often get around better with German than with French. Duh...
post #13 of 52
I certainly always spoke the language of anywhere I've ever visited/lived as well as possible. My sister just spent a year living as an exchange student in France - she speaks extremely good French. And . . . she concurs with me on this: they don't just snob non-french speakers, hell - they snob *each other*!! : We lived in Bavaria, this was before unification, I'm curious to go back and see how things have changed.
post #14 of 52
It's definately a tradition here in England not to like the French. Handed down from father to son since the dawn of time.

I know Karlsruhe. I lived in Bremen for 4 years. - Great laws re. closing time at the bar and motorways we'd call racing tracks.
post #15 of 52
When I retired from a 30-year teaching career, I had the same option. Prior to actually moving, we realized that for us it was going to be either Colorado or Utah. Since we had never been to Utah, we visited to check it out. We discovered that we really love the coniferous forests, and that cottonwoods just didn't cut it for us, so we settled on Colorado.

Because we knew we wanted to live in the mountains, we took up skiing as a way to pass the winter, and visited Summit County. It was there we moved three days after my retirement! The whole story is on my website at http://www.highcountryaerie.com/moving.htm .

I'd have to say that the very coolest thing about living here is that everyone ELSE is a mountain person like us. That was certainly not the case when we lived in Ohio!

Good luck with your search!

<FONT COLOR="#800080" SIZE="1">[ October 30, 2001 06:15 AM: Message edited 1 time, by Paul W ]</font>
post #16 of 52
Here we go again... what is it about the off-season that makes otherwise intelligent people on the ski boards make really dumb, broad generalizations about millions of people?

Just when it was about time for us to get our biannual I-Hate-New York flogging (one that usually ends with some skier from the Rocky Mountains or Pacific Northwest trotting out this ridiculous "study" from ten years ago that CONCLUSIVELY proved that people from the Northeast Corridor -- NYC, Boston, etc. -- are genetically predisposed to be much bigger jerks than those in the rest of the country), we now find that French-speakers are snobs. Could we put this hoary cliche to rest once and for all?... jeezus.

After living in Colorado for most of the 80s, I've got a laundry list of reasons for not moving back, in spite of the much better ski opportunities there. But I'm not going to present my subjective negative experiences as a universal truth, as in "don't live in Colorado: they're dumb, uncultured yahoos." Some are, some aren't.

As for Quebec... if you do speak French, you'll realize pretty quickly that about the only thing the Quebecois share with the French is their language... and even that's pretty tenuous. They are much more similar behaviorally to the US than to France. My own subjective study concludes that most of the people who say the French are snobs don't speak the language well enough to know better.

I do agree with Todd on one thing: Americans should attempt to live outside of the US for at least one year, and more importantly, learn a language or two while they're at it. And I say that as a proud American.

Could we get back to talking about DIN settings?
post #17 of 52
I would think that either Vermont / New Hampshire or Colorado would fit your bill, you know?
post #18 of 52
In heaven the lovers are Italien, the cooks are French, the mechanics are German, the policeman are British and it is all organised by the Swiss.

In hell the mechanics are French, the lovers are Swiss, the policemen are from Germany, the british cook and it's all organised by the Italiens.
post #19 of 52
>>Could we get back to talking about DIN settings? <<

Yes . . . I recommend you turn yours all the way up.
post #20 of 52
Touché!
post #21 of 52
Heh!

Anyways, this particular prejudice (against the French) was hard earned. I was in high school and also publishing a satirical newsletter when I was in Germany - there were folks getting it just over the boarder in France as well . . . and I got to first hand have a run in with the Language Police (because I wasn't putting enough French in it). Trust me, they really do think that all the other languages in the world are pig languages. Language discrimination is built into their laws. You can even go to jail in France if you name your child anything not on a government approved list!

Anyways - its all mostly tongue in cheek, if I had to settle for life in one mountain range, it would be the French Alps. Generalizations may be silly - but for all of our happiness on this forum, we probably are always better off taking general swipes than personal swipes at each other . . . don't you think? We certainly don't hold back when talking about Snowboarders, or about Lawyers, or the PSIA/PMTS, or about Shaped vs. Straight skis. Or many other things -- if AC had to start drawing a line on any generalizations, we wouldn't be able to say much even here in the International Forum.

Anyways - let us each cling to our own prejudices . . . though here is a good quote from Dennis Miller "Why hate somebody based on the color of their skin or religion, when if you really get to know somebody - there are so many other reasons to hate them"! This contradicts what I said but then uncle Walt said "Do I contradict myself? So - I contradict myself, I am large, I contain multitudes". [img]smile.gif[/img]
post #22 of 52
Not sure about French. The only other language besides English I can speak is Female. For some reason my hubby has a hard time understanding it.

Back to the topic. BnneJ1, Have lived in Denver for about 10 years. I love it. As said before there is a large medical community here you would have no problem with employment. You’re close to the mountains you can be skiing in an hour to hour and a half depending on where in town you live.

Lots of good things about Denver, nightlife, weather, and the people.

The bad, traffic, high housing prices.

You can look at www.realtor.com for housing prices.

The Summit County paper is avail on line at http://www.summitdaily.com/index.php3
For an idea of rents in the area.

I sell services to the medical industry and have clients in Vail and Summit County. The complaint I hear is the housing prices. If you are thinking about a clinic setting there is High Mountain Health Care in Summit and Vail Mountain Medical in Vail. They pretty much own or manage most of the private practices.

Centura, which is a large IDN system based in Denver, has some facilities in the mountains and of course there is the Vail hospital.

Hope this helps.
post #23 of 52
Thread Starter 
If there was a way to work in Europe, I would be all over that! However, not to disparrage our friends to the north but Canada is... well... Canada. I have this mental picture that Canada is like scenes from the movie "Fargo". Really cold all year, desolate, and everyone is walking around saying, "That's a mighty fine snow blower, ey."

As far as other interests: I am a competitive triathlete first and foremost. I have done alot of climbing and mountaineering but being in Florida, those skills have definately rusted. It doesn't matter big or small town as long as the people are intresting and friendly and there is plenty to do in the ski off season (ie mountain bike as an alternative to my regular tri training schedule)

As to how often I want to ski? Well, gee... all I can say is, nurses work 3 days on and 4 days off. That means 4 days of skiing if possible!

Right now, Hood River OR is the lead contender. It's 45 min out of Portland, has a level 3 truama center, a few hours from the ocean ( a FL girl can't forget the smell of the ocean!) and from those that live there Mt. Hood offers skiing 8 months out of the year!

PS thanks Kima for the info...
post #24 of 52
Hey Todd,
I understand your point about not needing much money but you need some, even if by working odd jobs, but I guarantee that those people travelling around with a backpack throughout Europe come from slightly privaleged backgrounds. People that live in poverty do not have the luxury to consider a backpack across Europe or living wherever you want and travelling, they are mainly concerned about where their next meal is going to come from, and the majority of the world lives in poverty.

.02
post #25 of 52
Hmmmmmm tough one. I'm pretty darn happy where I am in the north western corner of the contiguous US. Skiing can be sketchy here but most hills are pretty accessable and it's a quick trip to BC, Canada. You know what they say...if you can ski Washington you can ski anywhere (Buh?).

If I had to move....perhaps Colorado or Utah. It's a hard call - being a born and raised coastie I have a thing about being "landlocked." However I could always loose myself in those mountains of snow....... [img]smile.gif[/img]

Snow...snow....snow....

O.
post #26 of 52
Why your welcome! Triathlons. Wow. I did the danskin this year, kicked my butt and its a sprint!

There are several tris in the Denver area of variuos distances. The season is pretty much over. In the winter there are some multi-sport events with snowshoeing, nordic skiing.

You can check out http://www.rockymountainsports.com/

I made a mistake on one of the MSO's its High Country Health Care http://www.highcountryhealth.com/
post #27 of 52
Hood River also has the advantage of being one of the best places in the world to wind surf.

Look into Bend. It has a real long ski season, usually 7 to 8 months, with much better snow than Mt. Hood & much more variety. Bend is surrounded by great mountain biking (one magazine rated it the best place to live for mountain biking), rock climbing, white water & (egad!) golf. The seasons overlap one another in Bend so you are mountain biking before skiing ends.
post #28 of 52
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BnneJ1:
Mt. Hood offers skiing 8 months out of the year!
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

More like 11, isn't it?

BTW, you won't hear too many people in Vancouver talking about their snowblowers. Vancouver and Seattle have very similar climates--not much snow in the winter, but plenty of rain.
post #29 of 52
BnneJ1, I read your parameters and the first thing that came to mind was Glenwood Springs, Colorado. Fringe of the desert country and close(less than an hour) to seven ski hills that include Vail, Beaver Creek, Aspen, Aspen Highlands, Buttermilk, Snowmass, and Sunlight. It is still a town of its own making and has a lot to offer. ...Just may be worth a look. Good Luck!
post #30 of 52
I agree that most such adventurers did not come from poverty, however I know many personally that lived at or near poverty during their travels . . . on purpose, and with pleasure!
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