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Ski Box on Subarau Impreza question

post #1 of 16
Thread Starter 
Hey all - I have a 2004 Impreza WRX wagon. I had a Thule Mountaineer (read:BIG) on my Audi and loved it.

The WRX is too short for that thing. Thule or Yakima(forget which) makes a ski box "for small wagons."

For those in the same boat as me, you know that the problem is opening the hatchback with a box on the roof - the glass (or wing-dealie) hits the box.

Does anyone have a box on their Impreza wagon which meets the following requirements?

- The hatch opens at least most of the way
- Box is long enough to hold 195cm skis

Thanks! I have a rack on it now, but I miss the box....

Iain
post #2 of 16
Have you tried moving the racks/bars? My yakima also gives me multiple mounting points under the box.
post #3 of 16
Thread Starter 
Oh yes - even drilled more holes in the box. By the time I get
the box far enough forward that the hatch opens "enough," it is
hanging WAY off the front of the car - like I'd be worried to put
much stuff in it, for fear of whoknowswhat.

On top of that, the hatch STILL does not open far enough - it makes the edge of the hatch, a nice, sharp metal corner, pretty much even with the middle of my wife's face(she's 5'3"). I could
live with it, but you lose the ability to comfortably sit on
the bumper and put boots on.

I think the box I'm thinking of is the Thule Evolution 1600 - 76" long and specifically mentions "short for hatchbacks."

76" = 193cm. I have a pair of 190cm Atomics, my 193cm Atomics, and everything else is a bunch shorter - subtract 2" or so, dunno, the big skis might fit diagonally.

I'll have to go to REI and put a pair of skis in one, I guess.

Iain
post #4 of 16
I don't think there is a box that would fit skis inside and let you open the hatch, iunless you remove the wing.
The first year I got my WRX I took the wing off and was able to open the hatch upto 80%, then glass would hit my Yakima box.
Now I stopped using hatch during winter. I just fold the seats and put everything through the side doors.

Let me know if you find better solution. It would be cool if there was something to put in the roof holes when you remove the wing. Othervise it looks too ugly.

-Skircr
post #5 of 16
I have a similar problem with my Outback, but the door opens enough for it not to be too big a deal; although, I still bang my head occasionally :

Perhaps if you mounted the aftermarket cross bars that Yakima sells on the stock rack. That might allow the box sit high enough for the door to clear. I thought about doing it but didn't want to spend the extra bux.
post #6 of 16
Thread Starter 
Yeah, I might take the wing off, if needed - I tried that with my Thule box, it helped, but not enough.

I'm going to REI tonight to measure rearmount--->back of box,
see if big skis will fit, etc.

I'll post if I find something that works!

Iain
post #7 of 16
sort of unrelated but... I still use racks and am thinking about buying a box. Are they worth it and which are best?
post #8 of 16
Thread Starter 
Boxes are kinda spendy ($300-$1000, average seems to be $400 or so), but they are SOOOOO worth it, IMHO.

If you like having several sets of skis on hand, they're invaluable. They lock, and while it'd not be all that hard to break most of them open, most thieves are not going to break into a box -hoping- something cool is inside.

I put ~15 pairs of skis in my Thule Mountaineer when I moved last summer. Tight fit, but they fit.

When I go on a trip, I typically have 5 pairs of skis - 2 pairs of powder skis, two pairs of no-powder skis and the chucky skis. 3 pairs of poles.

That's if just we go - bring friends, typically 2pr per friend.

If you pack stuff in soft bags, you can put a LOT of crap in a box on top of and around the skis - I can normally fit all of my ski clothes for the week in the box (which is fine if I don't plan on skiing that day - brrr).

I worry far less about leaving the car overnight in a hotel parking lot with $XXXX in skis in the box - thieves typically don't break in hoping......

Summertime, same deal - big, huge expanse of space to put Stuff.

I love boxes. Took me years (and a big REI dividend to suck it up and buy one. I've lived a whopping 6 months without it, and I'd really, really like to get one back on the car....

Iain
post #9 of 16
I just went from a minivan to a mid size suv so I'm thinking about the box not only for skiing but for summer beach trips. I'm so used to throwing everything we might possibly want into the back of the van. Only thing is I have bike racks on my bars in the summer and am worried I won't have room for them with a box. I usually carry 2-4 pairs of skis and a snowboard.
post #10 of 16
Why not call Yakima. Their people are pretty good. I bought all of my stuff from them over the phone. I am sure they are familiar with your vehicle.
post #11 of 16
Thread Starter 
Yeah, I could, but IME, it is better to go and try stuff - the Yakima people are certainly nice, don't get me wrong, but the box, at 76"/193cm, I want to put a 193cm (or 195 Launcher) into it, they're almost certainly going to say "won't fit."

Well, I think they might - I don't blame them for saying no, I don't know they would not say "if you put them in diagonally, they'll make it," ehhh, real world is often better than CSR reading the manual.

Nothing personal with Yakima or any CSR for any company out there, just my experience has been better asking people what has worked for them.

I will let everyone know what I find at REI tonight.

Iain
post #12 of 16
Quote:
Originally posted by Iain Mannix:
Boxes are kinda spendy ($300-$1000, average seems to be $400 or so), but they are SOOOOO worth it, IMHO.

Iain
Iain, do you have enough clearance at the front of the box to significantly increase the ramp/delta angle of the box without hitting your roof/glass?

If you're mostly hauling skis, sliding within the box shouldn't be an issue, so it might just be a case of plywood ramp and muffler hangers to the rescue . . .

You could also build up a _flat_ raised platform but I kind of like the dragster-box concept.
post #13 of 16
Thread Starter 
Not a bad idea - it might be just the ticket with a shorter-butt box. I thought about it with the Mountaineer, but it would've been a 6-8" ramp, if not more - it would've looked REALLY silly, and it looked as though stuff would've slid right out the front when I opened it.

The shorter box might be the ticket, and with a few inches of "ramp angle," it might be perfect.

Iain
post #14 of 16
Quote:
Originally posted by Iain Mannix:
Not a bad idea - it might be just the ticket with a shorter-butt box. I thought about it with the Mountaineer, but it would've been a 6-8" ramp, if not more - it would've looked REALLY silly, and it looked as though stuff would've slid right out the front when I opened it.

The shorter box might be the ticket, and with a few inches of "ramp angle," it might be perfect.

Iain
Two sheets of plywood with a piano hinge up front and a removable support block in the back- open it only when flat.
post #15 of 16
Thread Starter 
OK, so I went to REI last night.

Informal measurements say that the Thule Evolution 1600 WILL fit on an Impreza wagon.

The rear wing might need to be removed to get full hatch-joy, but it is close - I think it'll open 90% or so with the wing, 100% without it.

A pair of Salomon Xscream or Xwave or Xwhatevers, in 190cm, DID fit diagonally in the box (base to base, with bindings).

I did not stack a pile in there to see if I could get everything in, but 190cm is tight - the only way my 193cm Atomics are going to fit is if Atomic's measurement is different than Salomons - entirely possible; ever notice that an older K2 200cm slalom ski is physically the same dimensions (roughly) as a 203 or 205 Rossignol?

SO, maybe. I have to bring some skis to REI and load it up to see for sure - but the Evo 1600 from Thule is at least very close.

Skis all shorter than 185cm? Perfect, I think. Might have to live without the wing, but (for me), who cares.

.02c, will let you know if I decide to buy it/how it goes!

Iain
post #16 of 16
This might look like far fetched... If you have a windsurf shop around, check out something like a DaKine windsurfing sidewall bag. I use a "formula boom bag" on my 2003 WRX wagon. It carries booms, masts, sails at the same time, no problem other than the wing pushing up the bag. It's no first class accomodation for skis, but i personally don't mind it. Beauty is that this type bag is soft, so it can be moved, stuffed and shoved on the roof rack to, uhm, adjust. If you need it for skis only, look into a smaller "quiver bag". Epic Gear also makes great bags but are harder to get.
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