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Thread Starter 
I'm looking for a pair of used Harb Carvers in good condition.

Tom Orwell
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Try Realskiers and TGR . They both love those skis.
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Is this post a troll?
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Originally Posted by GarryZ View Post
Try Realskiers and TGR . They both love those skis.
I thought Realskiers was somehow affiliated with Harb?

But yeah, last I heard, Harb was threatening to sue TGR for the forum discussions. (Which, naturally, inspired creative use of Photoshop.)
post #5 of 15
The Suit don't fear no lawsuits. Realskiers might just know where to locate a pair for sale.
post #6 of 15
Thread Starter 
Thanks.

Tom
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Thread Starter 

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Rio, I first thought I would ignore your post, but on thinking about it, I felt it deserves a reply.

I am not partisan to Harald Harb, to realskiers, or to any other group. I just want to become a better skier and a better ski instructor. I am planning to go for my PSIA Level 2 next season. For dryland training, I have used roller skis. I have two pair, both classic and skating. (BTW, I have made at least one post to this site regarding roller skis.) Roller skis are primarily for cross-country skiing, but the skating roller skis in particular are pretty good cross-training for downhill skiing. Looking at videos of skiers using Harb Carvers and reading some posts on this site as well as others, it is clear, however, that Harb Carvers more closely simulate on-snow downhill skiing that inline skates or roller skis. With my work and my family responsibilities, I can ski at most 20 days a year. Roller skis really helped me improve my cross-country skiing. I think that Harb Carvers may be able to do the same for my downhill skiing. Harb Carvers are also quite expensive. That’s why I made that post.

Frankly, I am angry that such an innocuous post would provoke the remark you made. It’s sad that groups of people dedicated to improving ski technique and instruction can become so bitter and so suspicious of each other.

Tom Orwell
post #8 of 15
Tom --

I think you may be overreacting a smidge to what was probably a genuine question, albeit one phrased with such brevity as to invite misinterpretation. In light of the controversy that tends to swirl around all things Harborial, seeing someone with a low post count asking about these prompts many to ask whether the question is genuine or whether it's just intended to spark a flame war. I admit that it crossed my mind as well, but I discounted it because it's hard to imagine a troll with such restraint that he posts fewer than 20 messages in more than two years of membership.

You started an innocuous thread with a post that was subject to misinterpretation. You received an arguably innocuous response that was subject to misinterpretation. You can either choose to defuse the situation or escalate it. I suggest the former.
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I posted the TGR referance as a running joke about Harald Harb and his unhappiness with postings at TGR. The Realskier referance was the best source of this type of ski. I have never seen any offered here but the Realskiers folks might really have access to this type of ski. Maybe some of the PMTS guys can help in sending to a better source if there is one.
Good luck.
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Originally Posted by alpinedad View Post
Tom --

I think you may be overreacting a smidge to what was probably a genuine question, albeit one phrased with such brevity as to invite misinterpretation. In light of the controversy that tends to swirl around all things Harborial, seeing someone with a low post count asking about these prompts many to ask whether the question is genuine or whether it's just intended to spark a flame war. I admit that it crossed my mind as well, but I discounted it because it's hard to imagine a troll with such restraint that he posts fewer than 20 messages in more than two years of membership.

You started an innocuous thread with a post that was subject to misinterpretation. You received an arguably innocuous response that was subject to misinterpretation. You can either choose to defuse the situation or escalate it. I suggest the former.
Lawyers...:

(I love 'Harborial'...)
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Originally Posted by philippeR View Post
Lawyers...:

(I love 'Harborial'...)
We aim to please.
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Realskiers : For All Things Harborial. (FATH)

You should patent that one.
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Originally Posted by GarryZ View Post
I have never seen any offered here but the Realskiers folks might really have access to this type of ski. Maybe some of the PMTS guys can help in sending to a better source if there is one.
Good luck.
They aren't skis but a skate like device that you attach to your ski boots. I have a pair and they work very well to keep my movements dialed in during the off season as they require the same movements I use for carving on snow to turn. Finding a used pair may be tough...perhaps you could convince someone to upgrade to a higher end model (the upper end models require a higher commitment to tipping and the wheels are bigger so they go faster).

Link to Harb Carvers

And some additional instructional info.
post #14 of 15
Thread Starter 
Alpinedad,

Thanks for your post.

I'm not interested in this matter going any further.

Tom
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Originally Posted by Max_501 View Post
They aren't skis but a skate like device that you attach to your ski boots. I have a pair and they work very well to keep my movements dialed in during the off season as they require the same movements I use for carving on snow to turn. Finding a used pair may be tough...perhaps you could convince someone to upgrade to a higher end model (the upper end models require a higher commitment to tipping and the wheels are bigger so they go faster).

Link to Harb Carvers

And some additional instructional info.
I had faith you might intervene here. Yeah. Now i remember seeing them.
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