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Tuning isn't just a guy thing....is it?

post #1 of 17
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It occurred to me that it 'seems like' the vast majority of interaction in the Tuning & Maintenance Forum are between guys. Maybe this should be a poll, but I'm curious what ratio there really is of male to female tuners and why not more female involvement?

There are always lurkers and those intimidated (female AND male, I'll bet) by some of the content and personalities of many of the discussions. What needs to change, if anything, to increase involvement (aside from lightening up)?
post #2 of 17
I hope tuning's not just a guy thing.

Here's some female perspective. 06/07 was my first season on skis. I started doing my own waxing pretty much immediately, and I decided that I'd get some supplies and do my own edges. I don't feel the need to obsess over their care, but I like to take care of them enough to keep them functioning well, and protect my investment. I like doing my own maintenance on gear for other sports, and paying to have my edges sharpened weekly, or every other week really added up.

I didn't manage to get beyond waxing before the end of my season, so I'm planning to get it together over the summer, at which point I'm sure I'll be adding plenty of noobie questions to the tuning forum
post #3 of 17
I've taken a great deal of care and time in getting my waxing down to a science. I participated in the Maplus Test, which really educated me.

The one thing I don't do is a complete tune. I have a stone and clean up my edges on occasion, but am apprehensive about really getting into the edges.

Maybe I should pay attention to the threads here a bit more, and get into that.

One trick I learned about waxing is:
Always put the right wax for the right temp on your skis.
Always put the wrong wax for the temp on your husband's skis
post #4 of 17
My wife delegates tuning to her father and waxing to me.
post #5 of 17
Nope, don't tune. I'm kind of inept at things like that, and I'm not afraid to admit it . So I buy the tuning package at my local ski shop: one price and all the tunes I want for the season. Works for me.
post #6 of 17
If you get DIY Network on TV you'll see that the trend of home repair and improvement being done mostly by men is changing. At least the hosts are mixed in gender.

Culturally that type of thing has been done more by men, but like so many other things this is changing. Seems to apply to tuning skis too.

My SO and I both believe in (and have fought for) equality, but when it comes time to change a light switch to a dimmer, it's me that does it.

That being said, she does wax the floors (just kidding.)
post #7 of 17
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That being said, she does wax the floors (just kidding.)
What temp wax? have you tried floros? liquids? Do you scrape? how often?
post #8 of 17
I do all the ski tuning in my family. Even tune my adult son's snowboard on occasion; tune cousins' skis from time to time as a thank you to staying at their mountain house and enjoy kibitzing long distance with my step-step-son racer dad who is fast becoming a tuning geek.

I edge and wax and will set side bevels and file as well as use stones. I take them into the shop for binding checks, p-tex repair, base flattening and stone grinding. I am far from an expert and occasionally worry if i'm doing it right, but so far it hasn't worked out too badly.

I use a multi-tuner because i figure it's harder to screw up that way, but i am thinking next season of going for diamond stones and bevel guides. I try to leave the base edges alone unless there's an obviously bad ding.
post #9 of 17
Didn't some US ski team members have a gal doing the ski tuning? Wife of former PSIA D-Teamer Sean Warman?
post #10 of 17
epic seems mostly male overall.
post #11 of 17
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What temp wax? have you tried floros? liquids? Do you scrape? how often?
We put storage wax on all the floors, since we don't get out of bed and walk around in the summer anyway. That way they'll keep from drying out and be nice and ready for winter.
post #12 of 17
Hey, that's a pretty good idea, get the kitty to do all the work scraping and all.
post #13 of 17
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I've taken a great deal of care and time in getting my waxing down to a science. I participated in the Maplus Test, which really educated me.

The one thing I don't do is a complete tune. I have a stone and clean up my edges on occasion, but am apprehensive about really getting into the edges.

Maybe I should pay attention to the threads here a bit more, and get into that.

One trick I learned about waxing is:
Always put the right wax for the right temp on your skis.
Always put the wrong wax for the temp on your husband's skis
Can you operate an outboard and bait hooks?
post #14 of 17
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Can you operate an outboard and bait hooks?
Ah Yup!
post #15 of 17
What kind of KISS Tips can I get to help me feel more comfortable messing with the edges?
I am always scared I'll mess them up to a point of no recovery.

Tell me something that's idiot proof, and maybe I'll do more than the burr touch ups.
post #16 of 17
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What kind of KISS Tips can I get to help me feel more comfortable messing with the edges?
I am always scared I'll mess them up to a point of no recovery.

Tell me something that's idiot proof, and maybe I'll do more than the burr touch ups.
This is what my ten year old uses with high confidence and he likes the results (he's on the left working on my niece's skis, while his cousin is cleaning and waxing his own after sharpening edges):



Knock down rough burrs and case hardened edges with 'cheap stone' (free hand, lubricated w/50/50 denatured alcohol):



Take a Moonflex bevel guide (brainless, easy & surprisingly effective, YMMV) with a 200 and then a 400 grit 70mm stone (lubricated w/50/50 denatured alcohol) down the side edges until they feel consistent and smooth (a dedicated aluminum or stainless steel guide or multi-tool are also, of course other guide options):





Polish along base edge to knock down hanging burr with Arkansas stone freehand(lubricated w/50/50 denatured alcohol) .





Do next edge. 15 to 30 minutes tops. Use file in dedicated bevel or multi-tool guide before diamond stones if really chewed up edges and/or 100 grit diamond. Cut back sidewall if necessary. Keep stones and files clean with brass or nylon brushes and/or eraser):

For Hot Waxing 101 see this page.

For liquids & spray wax see this page.

For Base Repair, this page.

HTH
post #17 of 17
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Originally Posted by trekchick View Post
What kind of KISS Tips can I get to help me feel more comfortable messing with the edges?
I am always scared I'll mess them up to a point of no recovery.

Tell me something that's idiot proof, and maybe I'll do more than the burr touch ups.
Try this for base filing: http://tinyurl.com/3doc35

And this: http://tinyurl.com/37lp9r With this: http://tinyurl.com/2wfslq And some of these: http://tinyurl.com/32of97 For side edges.
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