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post #1 of 26
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Killington closed (on the sale) last week. Why haven't they come out with new pricing on the 07-08 ski season? It doesn't make sense.

This may seem like I am obsessing, but what #ell!:

Anyone know what's up? Does anyone care?

Bears are talking about Stratton/Okemo, Mt Snow $399, and Whiteface/Gore. What are East Coaster's plans for next season?
post #2 of 26
I heard announcement will be the 16th...maybe. The over/under is $800.00.
post #3 of 26
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Maybe then I'll be able to get some sleep:
post #4 of 26
I think my Kton days are done either way.
post #5 of 26
Yeah, we're waiting on the Killington prices for next year, too, and it's super-frustrating. Stratton/Okemo is our likely backup, but we did Stratton this past season, and I have to say I like Mt. Snow better for southern VT.

How does Okemo compare to K for more challenging terrain? Are there any steeps on Jackson Gore similar to OL/Devil's Fiddle/Double Dipper? We're starting to grow out of K, so I hesitate to buy a pass anywhere that might be easier.
post #6 of 26
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Originally Posted by rachelv View Post
How does Okemo compare to K for more challenging terrain? Are there any steeps on Jackson Gore similar to OL/Devil's Fiddle/Double Dipper? We're starting to grow out of K, so I hesitate to buy a pass anywhere that might be easier.
Coming from someone who skis both Okemo and Kton regularly. K has it all over Okemo got terrain, even Okemo's wildest terrain is mild by killington standards. What Okemo has is much better snowmaking and grooming.

You might be better off heading further north to Sugarbush/MRG for more challenging terrain. That is where I will be going to get my fix.
post #7 of 26
I would put the terrain precedence at Okemo < Mt Snow/Stratton (tie) < Killington

As someone said - MRG/SB or Stowe has it over S Vt for the most part. But then again why not head to Jay at that point and ski pow all day ... decisions decisions
post #8 of 26
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Killington closed (on the sale) last week. Why haven't they come out with new pricing on the 07-08 ski season? It doesn't make sense.
saw this today on my local message board and don't know where it came from, It concerns K-marts lifetime season pass, so much for the good will of the new owners.

"The Pass was a benefit you or your predecessor in interest, received for being an initial investor in Sherburne Corporation during the resorts infancy. The specific language in your stock or bond certificate granted you "a pass entitling the holder to use free all ski lifts operated by the corporation in Killington Basin so long as the [Sherburne] corporation shall operate in that area under the agreement with the State of Vermont." When the resort changes ownership as part of this sale, Killington, LTD will no longer own or operate the lifts at the resort. Thus, ar the time of the transfer of ownership, your Pass will expire and the new Owners have no obligation to honor your pass.
If you are wondering why the rights under your pass survived the last sale of the resort it is because when we acquired Killington, we acquired the stock of Sherburne Corporation's parent (which owned other resorts in addition to Killington) and therefore Sherburne Corporation continued to operate the resort under an agreement with the State of Vermont, unlike in the current contemplated sale, where the new owners are acquiring the assets of the Killington and Pico Ski Resorts."
post #9 of 26
Yeah, that's what I thought. That's why I have a feeling we're going to end up with a K pass regardless, since adding another hour or two to our 4-5 hour drive to K isn't particularly appealing.

I'm still holding out hope that a $600-$800 season pass at Killington will thin out the crowds a little, and I don't want anyone to tell me differently.
post #10 of 26
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saw this today on my local message board and don't know where it came from, It concerns K-marts lifetime season pass, so much for the good will of the new owners.

"The Pass was a benefit you or your predecessor in interest, received for being an initial investor in Sherburne Corporation during the resorts infancy. The specific language in your stock or bond certificate granted you "a pass entitling the holder to use free all ski lifts operated by the corporation in Killington Basin so long as the [Sherburne] corporation shall operate in that area under the agreement with the State of Vermont." When the resort changes ownership as part of this sale, Killington, LTD will no longer own or operate the lifts at the resort. Thus, ar the time of the transfer of ownership, your Pass will expire and the new Owners have no obligation to honor your pass.
If you are wondering why the rights under your pass survived the last sale of the resort it is because when we acquired Killington, we acquired the stock of Sherburne Corporation's parent (which owned other resorts in addition to Killington) and therefore Sherburne Corporation continued to operate the resort under an agreement with the State of Vermont, unlike in the current contemplated sale, where the new owners are acquiring the assets of the Killington and Pico Ski Resorts."
There is signifigant debate about the status of the lifetime passes going on over at K-zone right now.....they are talking about a class action lawsuit........ooooooops, Killington!!!!!

http://www.killingtonzone.com/forums...ic.php?t=17103
post #11 of 26
An ASC Gold Pass was $799 last year. That's a full pass. So a full pass might go up a bit, to $1000...that's reasonable.

Now the question becomes.......will they offer a Silver and/or Bronze pass equivalent, and what will it cost? I think most people will still buy a bronze pass for $500 to $650. We'll see.

If nothing comes out this week for pricing, don't expect anything until July.
post #12 of 26
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Originally Posted by Highway Star View Post
There is signifigant debate about the status of the lifetime passes going on over at K-zone right now.....they are talking about a class action lawsuit........ooooooops, Killington!!!!!

http://www.killingtonzone.com/forums...ic.php?t=17103
The only people that would benefit from this would be the lawyers, again. Plenty of resorts have done the same thing over the years and were sued and have won. The key is reading the fine print. Crotched Mt in NH is the most recent example that comes to mind.
post #13 of 26
I have a season pass for Crystal Mountain Michigan that I bought in March for next year $229/year unlimited. Okay okay, its only 375 feet of vertical, but It's a great place to hook up with friends, ski and tailgate.

Oh and did I mention that I got a Season pass to ABasin for $309.00?
I've already used it 2 days!!!
I guess I'll have to make a few trips to Colorado next season!
post #14 of 26
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No way!
post #15 of 26
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No way!
Yup!

Its an awesome deal!
Unlimited skiing at ABasin, plus 5 lift tickets to Breck or Keystone!
A trip out there during prime ski season and it will definitely pay for itself
post #16 of 26
[quote=rachelv;

I'm still holding out hope that a $600-$800 season pass at Killington will thin out the crowds a little, and I don't want anyone to tell me differently. [/QUOTE]

I think the general agreement up here is that I higher pass will change the consumer dynamic.......afterall, they are attempting to transform into a destination resort & lose the bargin crowd.
The company has been upfront about wishing to promote a new lodge/hotel & reale estate.
We'll prob end up w/ a pass anyway...........
post #17 of 26
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Is that a good thing or a bad thing?

I still think Killington in not that great a mountain. It works for me because it's close (and cheap).

What type of skiers will be attracted to killington in the future?
post #18 of 26
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Now you have to go back
post #19 of 26
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Now you have to go back
Yup and I can get a discount for One friend for a day pass.
Who wants dibs on being my friend?:
post #20 of 26
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Originally Posted by rachelv View Post
Yeah, we're waiting on the Killington prices for next year, too, and it's super-frustrating. Stratton/Okemo is our likely backup, but we did Stratton this past season, and I have to say I like Mt. Snow better for southern VT.

How does Okemo compare to K for more challenging terrain? Are there any steeps on Jackson Gore similar to OL/Devil's Fiddle/Double Dipper? We're starting to grow out of K, so I hesitate to buy a pass anywhere that might be easier.
It's not even close, there's nothing at okemo that is even close to as steep as the 3 runs you mention at Killington. They have one 2x Black without trees and it would probably be 1x black at killington, more like Wildfire.
If you get the pass, Stratton and Sunapee don't add much challenge either.
post #21 of 26
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Plenty of resorts have done the same thing over the years and were sued and have won.
...and lost.

I'd sue the bastages too. A deal's a deal. I don't actually know the details of the deal, however, it sounds underhanded.
post #22 of 26
I see no basis on why Killington could be sued?
post #23 of 26
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Originally Posted by Philpug View Post
I see no basis on why Killington could be sued?

They could be sued, but would they win or lose? I have no idea, but if the stock offers a benifit of skiing, as in lifetime pass shouldn't they honor it.

Jiminy Peak went through this a while back during corp. restructuring. The life time passes (stock) are being honored, but only after some pushing and shoving.
post #24 of 26
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Originally Posted by JHrefugee View Post
The key is reading the fine print. Crotched Mt in NH is the most recent example that comes to mind.
What happened there?
post #25 of 26
How many lifetime season passes exist? I mean, are we talking about a significant number here?
post #26 of 26
Oh, I am sorry. I did relaize that the sueing was about a lifetime pass. I agree that a "lifetime pass" should be honored. when you purchase a business like this along with the benefits, the debt is absorbed. Why they would not want to keep the good will of these people. Anyone who has the means to put out for that type of pass, is an asset as a customer.
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