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post #31 of 46
bent.
post #32 of 46
Hmmm. I've had lots of wood and glass skis totally lose their camber, and I've broken my share, but bent?
post #33 of 46

Gotamas

BUSHWACKERPA. Back on the Gotama subject. We have 12 in. on top and the weather forecast is snow starting tonight and continuing for 7 days. If the weatherman is half right (this time) I'll get to try my new 183's out this week. I'll post my impressions then - think positive - that is my motto.
post #34 of 46
Good review and some good looking shots there. I've been chasing after a pair of Gotama's on ebay for a few weeks now and give up they are just too expensive wtf I scored a pair of K2 Seth 189's instead. What the hell I've never owned a pair of ski's wider than 70 underfoot so I'm going all the way hellbent to the darkside hahahah looking fwd to some epic powder days at Castle Alberta Canada this year. Ski the wang.
post #35 of 46
I got to demo my first pair of Gots last weekend at the Canyons demo day. Wow. I told my girlfriend that I had found new love. The only issue with the demo was that the conditions were still fairly pre-season, and I really didn't get to put the skis to the test. I wish there had been some more powder runs open and some steeper terrain to test them on. With that said, it sounds like everyone here loves 'em for just about everything thrown their way, except maybe for the iced groomers of the EC. I'm living it up in the Wasatch right now and planning to receive a pair of Gots from Santa in about three weeks. I think they'll make a nice addition to my current one ski quiver, though I'll probably be skiing these about 100% of the time.

Some other skis on my mind have been the Dyna LP's, the BRO 178 or 18?, and the Atomic Thug. Anyone have any advice for comparison? I probably won't get to try the other skis out, but I'm sure someone here has some insight.

Thanks,
DL
post #36 of 46
Hi every one,
I really enjoy my 06/07 Goats.

I am considering a pair of Goats in 168cm for my daughter. age 21, 5'4 115 lb, level 7-8. 25/75 groomer/off-piste. Also comparing with the Rossigno scratch girl BC in 160 or 170cm??? any suggestion will be highly appriciated. Thanks.
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Hi every one,
I really enjoy my 06/07 Goats.

I am considering a pair of Goats in 168cm for my daughter. age 21, 5'4 115 lb, level 7-8. 25/75 groomer/off-piste. Also comparing with the Rossigno scratch girl BC in 160 or 170cm??? any suggestion will be highly appriciated. Thanks.
what kinda of turn shape? if it longer turns in the falline and she know how to edge before twisting than I would go 176...seriousally it skis really short.

My friend kristen is 5'2 about you daughter weight and rips on the 176.

if you go gotama go 176 if you go girls scratch go 170.

video of what a light girl can do on 176 gotamas...
post #38 of 46
yep, really short, bushwacker is right.
I'm a little fixated on contact length right now, since there's so little consistency w/ turned uptails etc... So, i measured the gotama today in a 176 (i was considering it), it was @58in. my 170 nordica JF is 60 inchs while my coomba in a 174 is 63. the got is short. i think maybe the "ski bigger, longer skis" guys like this since they can ski a 191 and feel good holding it on the tram, while only really skiing a 175...

cheers,
holiday
post #39 of 46
BushwackerinPA, NICE!

Here's another point of reference for everyone.

HarkinBanks Jr. (13 yrs. old) is now 5'6" and 138 lbs. of muscle and is on a 177 Bridge as his everyday ski. He tries to steal his mom's 176 Gotama's on every powder day that we get. It's just amazing what a fat ski can do. (A lot has to do with his trust in me also.)

There's really no terrain that can stop him on either ski.

HB
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yep, really short, bushwacker is right.
I'm a little fixated on contact length right now, since there's so little consistency w/ turned uptails etc... So, i measured the gotama today in a 176 (i was considering it), it was @58in. my 170 nordica JF is 60 inchs while my coomba in a 174 is 63. the got is short. i think maybe the "ski bigger, longer skis" guys like this since they can ski a 191 and feel good holding it on the tram, while only really skiing a 175...

cheers,
holiday
seriousally part of the reason the gotama sell so well its easy to ski while still be a great skis for faster speeds.

My next gotama is going to be a 190(which willstill only ski like a 180)......but my new 189 seths are truly long and measure much longer than a 190 gotama.

I have some kids in weekly programs this year at snowbird skiing on some 168 gotamas, it works for them and they are much smaller than your daughter. 168 = less than 100lb and or less than 5 feet IMO.
post #41 of 46
I am getting excited now because I could give my 06/07 176cm Goats to my daughter and get 07/08 in 183cm. Is it the better length for me than 176??? How about in tight spot or bumps???
age 49. 5'7 155lb level 7-8. 25+days per season. also own Volkl 5 starts in 168cm for icy/hardpack day.(I just went to garage and found out the contact length on 176 Goats are the same to my 168 5 stars)

Thanks so much for all the helps.
post #42 of 46
bushwackrer-- you have got to edit your signature.

it's except and lives- amongst other things.
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bushwackrer-- you have got to edit your signature.

it's except and lives- amongst other things.
I like it just the way it is, :
post #44 of 46
Skied the 07 gots today after a 20cm dump @whistler. had chance to ski them back to back with the 07 sollie guns. The gots are money on a powder day. The guns didnt even compare, way too forward mounted & hooky in the pow despite it's width. The gots were more floaty, more stable at speed, better edge grip and still were easy to smear short turns tight quarters.

I was worried about the rear mounting on the gots but in the pow, you wouldn't want it any other way. There was too much tail on the guns, I found I had too keep sitting back to keep the tips up in the deep. The gots in comparison felt very balanced, didnt feel like i was going to go over the handlebars like on the guns.

Now I know why everyone loves the goats.
post #45 of 46
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Skied the 07 gots today after a 20cm dump @whistler. had chance to ski them back to back with the 07 sollie guns. The gots are money on a powder day. The guns didnt even compare, way too forward mounted & hooky in the pow despite it's width. The gots were more floaty, more stable at speed, better edge grip and still were easy to smear short turns tight quarters.

I was worried about the rear mounting on the gots but in the pow, you wouldn't want it any other way. There was too much tail on the guns, I found I had too keep sitting back to keep the tips up in the deep. The gots in comparison felt very balanced, didnt feel like i was going to go over the handlebars like on the guns.

Now I know why everyone loves the goats.
if the sollie was on a demo track, you should have pulled the binding back a couple of centimeters. That's the beauty of demo bindings.

I ride a goat, love it, but know that a gun will rip pow too if properly mounted.

Plus, the forward lean of your boot may have played a role in that judgment. (not that I am AT ALL promoting sollies.)

I rode my goats today for the first time this season. They're 4 years old, have epoxied tails, moldy sidewalls and still give back 100%. Although a stone grind may be in order.

*edit- I should add that this is the first ski that has lasted me more than one year. I've been skiing for 31 seasons/29 years and have never had a ski last this long... and- I still gloat over it.
post #46 of 46
i got the 05/06 goats as well, but in 176cm

Scored a cheap pair for ~$600 incl bindings (hey! that's cheap for Sweden). They didn't have the 183s but I figured the 176 would work for me being light (135lbs)..

I must say they are very likable. Amazing on soft groomers,I hardly noticed the 105 waist. I could do some seriously tight or wiiiide carved turns with these (at any speed it seems)! The only problems I had with these were on icy stuff, also got tossed around a bit on harder crud but it was still managable.

My earlier ski was fairly slim pair from the late 90s (106-68-96) so skiing Gotama was more or less of a revolution for me. No trouble at all with that huge gap (almost +40mm)

And yeah, they rule in powder or any other soft snow for that matter. They are very very easy to turn and works great in tight trees, very playful.

Maybe 183 would be better for me, sacrificing some tree performance for better crud busting, but for now I'm very satisfied with 176. And I think you should be satisfied with what you have instead of always wanting new gear all the time : especially when you own a great pair of skis
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