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Which ski technologies?

post #1 of 20
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If we shared an economy based on cooperation rather than competition, which currently proprietary ski technologies from different ski manufacturers could be or should be combined in the same ski?
post #2 of 20
Interesting question. There is a limited number of ski manufacturers so there are multible brands coming out of the same factories.

You see a lot in bindings right now with the likes of Tyrolia also being sold as Elan and Fischer. Salomon also having an Atomic twin. Look and Rossi being the same.
post #3 of 20
Interesting question, but I am having a hard time thinking of technologies that have lasted a long time and are not just marketing hype. Seems like every few years the ski makers come out with some "new" technology that they build marketing around. I am not sure it's ever a real major engineering breakthrough. They all seem to make a lot of incremental improvements and come up with a lot of little tricks.
post #4 of 20
Atomic Titanium Beta Channels through a wooden beta-core with vertical phenolic sidewalls.
post #5 of 20
make flat skis, that you can mount ANY binding to. forget about the systems

salomon pro pulse bindings

atomic "green light/red light bindings"

marker flex control bindings

looks on/off upward release.

lange RRS (rearward release system)

langes built in heaters.

VAS plates

etc, etc, etc
post #6 of 20
Liquid Metal Metrons with Mutex Prolinks mounted with Spheric Pivogy bindings.
post #7 of 20
Interesting question, but I don't see any technologies that could be combined into the same ski. I just notice how the world's most popular skis are generally wood/fiberglass and in some wider shape. Aside from the shapes changing, it's pretty astounding that wood/fiberglass has remained the most sought-after construction for the last however many decades it's been. Even small ski companies are making their hand-made claims-to-fame by making sturdy wooden beasts. Kingswood, Ogasaka, Bros, Praxis, etc- different shapes, all wood. Different woods, yes. Poplar, birch, bamboo, etc.

Even salomon came around and started producing wood cores again. Heck, even my first generation gotamas lack a sidewall. Just untreated and exposed wooden core.
post #8 of 20
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Originally Posted by resonate11 View Post
If we shared an economy based on cooperation rather than competition....
We'd all be skiing on 240cm hickory skis.

Communism doesn't work.

Steve
post #9 of 20
Here is a thread a started a few years ago that is relevent: Ski Technology gone by the wayside
post #10 of 20
Personally, I'm done with integrated bindings! I'm a fat ski aholic now and thankfully they are sold flat! Fats and bump skis are all you'll see me on pretty much from now on. I'll still take my Allstars out from time to time just to top 70mph(see anther thread) but when they are laid to rest that will be it for me. Once you go fat as they say.
post #11 of 20
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Originally Posted by ski=free View Post
Personally, I'm done with integrated bindings! I'm a fat ski aholic now and thankfully they are sold flat! Fats and bump skis are all you'll see me on pretty much from now on. I'll still take my Allstars out from time to time just to top 70mph(see anther thread) but when they are laid to rest that will be it for me. Once you go fat as they say.
Enjoy it while you can. Blizzard Titans and Nordica Hellcats (both 90-100mm) are intergrated for 08.
post #12 of 20
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Originally Posted by Philpug View Post
Enjoy it while you can. Blizzard Titans and Nordica Hellcats (both 90-100mm) are intergrated for 08.
Say it aint so!! That would be a shame if they stop making flat skis. As long as there is a choice I don't care.
post #13 of 20
This isn't a novel idea, but I do think it illustrates where the industry is heading. As skiers buy into and potentially attempt more off-piste and out-of-bounds resort skiing, heavy duty "side-country" bindings on wider skis will be more mainstream.

[ IMG ][ /IMG ]

http://pistehors.com/news/ski/commen...uring-binding/

Cheers,

michael
post #14 of 20
Junk all non-flat systems.

Junk all foam cores.

Junk all caps.

I'd like to see a twin-tip SL race ski.
post #15 of 20
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Originally Posted by resonate11 View Post
If we shared an economy based on cooperation rather than competition, which currently proprietary ski technologies from different ski manufacturers could be or should be combined in the same ski?
I think it'd be great if manufacturers could share vertical sidewalls and layers of wood+metal. Imagine all the great skis they could make then!

... Ironically, had you asked this question ~15 years ago, we'd all have given probably a similar answer. Oh, yeah, and shaped skis probably still wouldn't be here, since everyone would be 'cooperating' to continue making rossi 7s's/whatever (or 7ks? Whatever those yellow ones were. Before my time :-D ).
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post #17 of 20
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Originally Posted by mntlion View Post

lange RRS (rearward release system)
Hey, that couldda been something.
post #18 of 20
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Originally Posted by Voltron View Post
Liquid Metal Metrons with Mutex Prolinks mounted with Spheric Pivogy bindings.
LOL!! Good one!

Given that most high performance skis are sandwich construction with wood core and various fibre and metal layers, I think any proprietary ski technologies should be viewed with extreme cynicism.

Right now though I am looking for a Hellbent, built like a Mantra, with the graphics of a Sir Francis Bacon.
post #19 of 20
Depends on the target group and ski category.
If there is the price as limiting factor there can hardly be any breakthrough combinations, I suppose. Otoh, with no such limits the questions starts to be really interesting, though a different topic.
post #20 of 20
Morbid curiosity would have me waiting for an hourglass twin-tip festooned with Mutix bars, Prolinks, VAS plates, and chicken hearts on both ends. Of course, it wouldn't be complete unless it had integrated Markers on Pilot plates.

I think it would be specialized for ski ballet in variable conditions.
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