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Binding advice for new PE's?

post #1 of 23
4/30/07 at 10:46am
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Grabbed a pair of 179 K2 Public Enemy's today on Steep and Cheap and now need to decide which bindings to put on them. I currently have 2 sets of bindings on other pairs of skis, one of these will go on the PE's.

Salomon 912 pe2 or Rossi Axium 110.

I realize that the 912's are a higher quality binding but they are on a pair of Salomon Equipe GS boards that I may want to ski occasionally so I'm reluctant to pull the bindings off of them. Axiums are on a pair of Blizzards that are too long for me anyway and I'll have no regrets about not being able to ski them.

Any problems forseen with just moving the Axiums and not looking back?

Also, will I be able to bend the brakes on these to fit the PE's or do I need to look for some wide brakes?

I'm also interested in opinions on where to mount the bindings for all mountain use? Leaning towards +2 or +3.

Sorry for all of the questions!

Thanks,
Mike
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post #2 of 23
4/30/07 at 10:54am
the waist of the PE's are 85mm. what are the waists measurements of the Blizzard skis? I think if they are close-within 5mm, you can bend without issue.
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post #3 of 23
4/30/07 at 11:29am
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Blizzards are only 68mm so I may be in the market for some new brakes.

Mike
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post #4 of 23
4/30/07 at 8:18pm
I would say the Look(or rossi) PX12ti are a good choice;normal brakes will work, as are solly12 Din bindings even the new Z will probably be good for anyone thats not really pounding on their skis(IE 40mph straighlines, hucks elect).

www.backcountry.com has Looks pretty cheap or just wait for them to show up on steepandcheap.com aka backcountry's clearing house.
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post #5 of 23
4/30/07 at 8:55pm
SAC had the PX12 jib, so they may have it again, or you can get a click-through discount from sacattack.com assuming they fix that feature (search for the binding you want from the site's front page.)
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post #6 of 23
5/1/07 at 11:36am
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Originally Posted by BushwackerinPA View Post
I would say the Look(or rossi) PX12ti are a good choice;normal brakes will work, as are solly12 Din bindings even the new Z will probably be good for anyone thats not really pounding on their skis(IE 40mph straighlines, hucks elect).

www.backcountry.com has Looks pretty cheap or just wait for them to show up on steepandcheap.com aka backcountry's clearing house.
Are you sure normal brakes will work? Will you have to bend them out? I have a pair of look px jib in front of me with normal brakes(skis at home I'm at work). Any downside to bending brakes outward?
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post #7 of 23
5/1/07 at 11:38am

Oh, here is some mounting advice

http://www.k2skis.com/support/
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post #8 of 23
5/1/07 at 2:42pm
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Originally Posted by ski=free View Post
Are you sure normal brakes will work? Will you have to bend them out? I have a pair of look px jib in front of me with normal brakes(skis at home I'm at work). Any downside to bending brakes outward?
100 percent postive cause I run PX12tis normal brakes on my skis now. No downsides I know of.
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post #9 of 23
5/1/07 at 3:00pm
Thanks! Now I can save my wide brakes for Gotamas!!! Gonna be an expensive summer!
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post #10 of 23
5/1/07 at 3:05pm
yep you will need wide brakes on the goats!!

you will ahve to bend but not much at all.
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post #11 of 23
5/1/07 at 3:56pm
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Originally Posted by ski=free View Post
Are you sure normal brakes will work? Will you have to bend them out? I have a pair of look px jib in front of me with normal brakes(skis at home I'm at work). Any downside to bending brakes outward?
Confirmed that yes they work. I use PX12Ti on my Nordica Beasts with normal brakes (thats 92mm wide ski). They fit fine.

I have a pir of wide brakes on my Head 103s they fit fine too. maybe a tiny bit of bending needed, piece of cake.
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post #12 of 23
5/2/07 at 6:10am
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Thanks for all of the advice on getting new binders, but have 10+ replies and no answer to my original question of which pair of the bindings I already own to use on the PE's?

Does everyone think that I shouldn't use either the Rossi Axium 110's or the Sally 912's and should get another set? I really don't want to buy another set if I don't have to. I'm not going to be jumping any cliffs on the PE's, and just want a safe binding setup on them.

Thanks,
Mike
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post #13 of 23
5/2/07 at 6:44am
I would say use the 912 but why not use a pair of skis over getting new bindings..
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post #14 of 23
5/2/07 at 6:51am
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Would use the 912's off of the Equipes because I already have another new narrow carving ski (fischer RX8) and don't think I will use the Equipe very much if at all.

Mike
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post #15 of 23
5/2/07 at 6:59am
If you intend to use the Equipe and not the Blizzards, I guess you answered your own question...
If you're not too heavy, the Axium should be ok.
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post #16 of 23
5/2/07 at 9:52am
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Originally Posted by philippeR View Post
If you intend to use the Equipe and not the Blizzards, I guess you answered your own question...
If you're not too heavy, the Axium should be ok.
I'm 6' and 185lbs, probably close to 200 with ski gear.

What do you think?

Mike
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post #17 of 23
5/2/07 at 11:06am
In that case, axe the axiums. They do not have a good reputation for retention, and are all plastic. I'm 6'2 and 185, and I wouldn't feel comfortable on them, for what that's worth. Either use the 912s or get some SAC px12s for 100 bucks. What do you usually run for a DIN?
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post #18 of 23
5/2/07 at 11:09am
You're on the heavy side. Honestly, at your weight, you're at the limit of the axium with such a ski (mid-fat, 175+cm). The salomons should prove more 'tight', precise. (Not a safety issue though. I'm about your weight and I've skied Big Troubles with demo axiums without any ... trouble uh uh)
If you intend to ski the PEs a lot, the Salomon are a best bet IMO.
ie, I've just contradicted myself...

(others mileage may vary)
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post #19 of 23
5/2/07 at 12:32pm
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Originally Posted by doublediamond223 View Post
In that case, axe the axiums. They do not have a good reputation for retention, and are all plastic. I'm 6'2 and 185, and I wouldn't feel comfortable on them, for what that's worth. Either use the 912s or get some SAC px12s for 100 bucks. What do you usually run for a DIN?

My DIN usually runs around 9. Was running 8.5 but downsized my boots and I'm now recommended to be at 9 or 9.5.

Mike
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post #20 of 23
5/4/07 at 6:49am
Either will work if you set the din to 9. I would do the 912s though. Axiums are not that strong and really are only good for people under 150 or so.
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post #21 of 23
5/4/07 at 7:08am
i'mma toss in a vote for the Mojo 15.

Running those on my King Salmons and totally vibing on them (didn't vibe so much on the AxialTi's I had on my Karmas, though).

you can snag the M15 for approx $150 online, too, probably cheaper.

just my 2 cents...

FWIW, I run Solly S912Ti's on my Spats and they've been decent.

oh yeah, i'm 5'11" and probably down close to 175#. I run between an 8 and 9 DIN on most of my rides.
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post #22 of 23
5/4/07 at 7:26am
At a DIN of 9, I would stick with the 912s. I've broken 10 DIN bindings before, I'd never use lower than a 12-level binding.
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post #23 of 23
5/4/07 at 7:52am
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Originally Posted by dookey67 View Post
i'mma toss in a vote for the Mojo 15.

Running those on my King Salmons and totally vibing on them (didn't vibe so much on the AxialTi's I had on my Karmas, though).

you can snag the M15 for approx $150 online, too, probably cheaper.

just my 2 cents...

FWIW, I run Solly S912Ti's on my Spats and they've been decent.

oh yeah, i'm 5'11" and probably down close to 175#. I run between an 8 and 9 DIN on most of my rides.

Mojo 15 is the best binding I've ever used.
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