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End of season: demo before buy?

post #1 of 16
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Demo before buying. I always thought that's a no-brainer. But, this is the end of season. I'm sorely tempted to break the rule.

On the one hand, shops are SLASHING their prices SERIOUSLY. So the skis on their racks are screaming to me "take me home"! On the other hand, the snow conditions right now are soft and slushy, at best, atypical of what I'll be using the ski.

So, how meaningful will the demo be? :

Looking at my options makes me sick. If I wait for the "right" condition to demo, it means next year. At which point the price would likely gone back up to more "seasonal" level. But if I buy without demoing (go by specs & review instead), I may ended up with a ski I don't particularly like... :

What should I do?

What would YOU do?
post #2 of 16
When in doubt buy first, demo later.
post #3 of 16
I always buy at this time of year. I've not been disappointed yet. I'm not too picky, however. I seem to enjoy every ski I try. Just bought a pair of Fischer Atuas on one day of demo in incredibly thick snow. I fell in love. You too can have this experience. Buy now!
post #4 of 16
I choose carefully when shopping for skis that I cannot demo, and have never found a ski I really hated. Most times I like them a lot. Usually, a combination of experience/knowledge and research here can narrow the field down quite a bit. When I find a good deal on a ski I think is pretty good, I jump on it. I would not dump money on an unfamiliar ski though.
post #5 of 16
http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/s...ad.php?t=83827 would of bought these at this price....damn bargin hunters!!!

...like myself
post #6 of 16
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Originally Posted by skier219 View Post
When I find a good deal on a ski I think is pretty good, I jump on it. .
Well, that's pretty much what I'm tempted to do.

I have a short list of skis that, looking at the spec and from the reviews, I think should be good for me. I would have liked to demo them first. But before I get to them, the snow is about to be gone. So it's like should I buy it without bothering to demo? Or should I wait? The deals out there are tempting.

I'm not exactly a picky person, at least when it comes to skis. But I'm on the really small side so a lot of the reviews I have to take it with a different twist. What's soft to an average guy may not be soft for me and what's too soft for others might just be right, etc...
post #7 of 16
Even if the snow is atypical, skiing on it will tell you more about whether you like the skis than posting here will.

But if the deal is too good to pass up, well, duh -- don't pass it up.

... says the man who literally has never demoed a pair of skis that he's actually bought. Because each of the five pairs in hand, and the one pair ordered for next fall, was too good a deal to pass up.
post #8 of 16
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Originally Posted by alpinedad View Post
Even if the snow is atypical, skiing on it will tell you more about whether you like the skis than posting here will.

But if the deal is too good to pass up, well, duh -- don't pass it up.

... says the man who literally has never demoed a pair of skis that he's actually bought. Because each of the five pairs in hand, and the one pair ordered for next fall, was too good a deal to pass up.
praxis I take?
post #9 of 16
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Originally Posted by alpinedad View Post
Even if the snow is atypical, skiing on it will tell you more about whether you like the skis than posting here will.

But if the deal is too good to pass up, well, duh -- don't pass it up.

... says the man who literally has never demoed a pair of skis that he's actually bought. Because each of the five pairs in hand, and the one pair ordered for next fall, was too good a deal to pass up.
A good deal on the wrong ski doesn't do much good.

But, posting here can be done all week, demoing on slushy snow can only be done on limited weekends.

Perhaps the question I didn't ask is did any of your bargain hunters ever find you really dislike the bargain you ended up with? Or the saving is enough to color the performance that you don't notice anyway?
post #10 of 16
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Originally Posted by Philpug View Post
When in doubt buy first, demo later.

Yep, demo'ing is a good way to go, but picking up skis at killer deals is awfully tempting. I did a day of demo'ing this season and found some skis that I definitely wouldn't buy, the volkl Karmas and Mantras. And some skis I would consider the Scott Missions and the 4 frnt VCT's and MSP's.

But in the end I ended up buying some Dynastar 8800's and some PM Gear 179 fats.

I've been pleased with the skis I've ended up with. I know I need to demo first before buying and I need to take some more lessons to develop my skill level. But Phil's rule can be effective when the obvious rule doesn't apply.

ugh.
post #11 of 16
If you've demoed in the past(establishing brands/models that don't work for you) and you've done your research on the bargain skis.........Buy em!

With today's technology, and the profound skis out there, the chance of getting a bargain ski and Hating it are not very likely.


Absolute worst case scenario: at the bargain price, you'll be able to try it and if you don't like it, likely will be able to get your money back out of it
post #12 of 16
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Originally Posted by BushwackerinPA View Post
praxis I take?
Yesindeedydo. Teehee!

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Originally Posted by at_nyc View Post
A good deal on the wrong ski doesn't do much good.
... unless it is truly a smoking deal, and only potentially the wrong ski for you, not generally the wrong ski for the public at large. In which case, you should be able to flip it.

In other words, what trekchick said:
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Originally Posted by trekchick View Post
Absolute worst case scenario: at the bargain price, you'll be able to try it and if you don't like it, likely will be able to get your money back out of it
post #13 of 16
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Originally Posted by at_nyc View Post
Perhaps the question I didn't ask is did any of your bargain hunters ever find you really dislike the bargain you ended up with?
Yes. Almost always because I had the wrong size.

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Or the saving is enough to color the performance that you don't notice anyway?
Nope. If the saving is enough to color the performance, then its enough to give a decent swap/fleeb resale value.
post #14 of 16
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Originally Posted by trekchick View Post
Absolute worst case scenario: at the bargain price, you'll be able to try it and if you don't like it, likely will be able to get your money back out of it
That's what I usually do with other stuff. But since I'm in the short & light side, my skis will all be in the sub-165cm range. I'm worry there may not be a big market for those sizes?

On the other hand, if I get something at 50%, I should be able to get rid of it if I price it at 30%, right? Then I'll only be out less than a c-note. That's not bad given I would have paid $35 to just demo it anyway.

OK, I'll admit it. I want them, and was just looking for confirmation and moral support of the gear heads. Thanks.
post #15 of 16
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Originally Posted by at_nyc View Post
That's what I usually do with other stuff. But since I'm in the short & light side, my skis will all be in the sub-165cm range. I'm worry there may not be a big market for those sizes?

On the other hand, if I get something at 50%, I should be able to get rid of it if I price it at 30%, right? Then I'll only be out less than a c-note. That's not bad given I would have paid $35 to just demo it anyway.

OK, I'll admit it. I want them, and was just looking for confirmation and moral support of the gear heads. Thanks.
Glad you were convinced, now stop beating around the bush and buy them.
post #16 of 16
I recently bought 07 Racetiger SL Stocks after GS stocks. Is that blind buying?
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