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midfat ski for western skiing

post #1 of 16
Thread Starter 
hello all,
another newbie,---awesome site--will chip in my $20 asap---
some advice needed please
i need some recommendations for a midfat (NOT ANOTHER ONE) ski for mammoth, tahoe, utah---i have a rossi bsquad for deep snow, and don,t want a groomer-zoomer,,,,waists should be 74-82mm.
i am male, level 8, 5'6", med/long turner, 70/30 skier, soft bumps, med to fast speeds, mostly gs-type preference,,
i demoed and liked on GROOMED snow these:
-dyn legend 8k, 172, 79mm waist, smooth, damp, not superstable at speed
-fischer amc79, 170, 79mm waist, light, quick, a little nervous at hi speed
-nordi nitrous, 170, 78 waist, calm, kinda lively,and heavy, stable, fun.
-head im82, 172, 82 waist, a beefy, solid ski that is very nimble for 82 waist, can make any size turn.
i don't want a rossi or k2---too damp--and i don't have enough beef for volkl or stockli----and i couldn't find any elans to try.
i didn,t get to try these in off-trail crud and mashed potatoes---hence my dilemna.
what would YOU recommend from this bunch, or from OTHER MAKES like elan, solli, or whatever,, with length suggestions as well, for 70/30, 155 pounder, level 8 in western snow.

thanks for your suggestions----newbie Marc
post #2 of 16
The purpose of demoing skis should be to find the ones that you like. There won't be any dramatic differences in crud that you haven't already felt in the testing that you have already done. It sounds as if you preferred the Nitrous and the Head. You should probably buy one of those.

SJ
post #3 of 16
I'd do the iM82 and call it a day!
post #4 of 16
Ptex has the 82 for 325 shipped, such a deal.
post #5 of 16
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mid fat for western skiing

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Originally Posted by SierraJim View Post
The purpose of demoing skis should be to find the ones that you like. There won't be any dramatic differences in crud that you haven't already felt in the testing that you have already done. It sounds as if you preferred the Nitrous and the Head. You should probably buy one of those.

SJ
hi sj,
i demoed each of these, and 3 others which i left off, on hero snow--1 run each on 3 consecutive days, first tracks each day, where a 2x4 plank would have done well, so i am skeptical, i guess, of making a final judgment. i dont usually ski on such ideal conditions.
i was trying to get an expanded evaluation on less ideal surfaces eg. crud, cutup powder etc...
can i infer that a ski's performance on hero snow can be translated across the board? if this is true, then i have my answers already.??
you,re more knowledgeable than i in this regard, so please let me know.
by the way, what would be your picks for me from the skis in your shop.---

thanks and regards----marc
post #6 of 16
Head knocked the ball out of the park with the IM82. It was my favorite ski of the 06-07 season and will probably replace my public enemies next year.
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Head knocked the ball out of the park with the IM82. It was my favorite ski of the 06-07 season and will probably replace my public enemies next year.
Length??
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Ptex has the 82 for 325 shipped, such a deal.
Sorry another newbie who has no clue and short on lingo. What's Ptex?
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Sorry another newbie who has no clue and short on lingo. What's Ptex?
ptex1 is a member of the forum
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Sorry another newbie who has no clue and short on lingo. What's Ptex?
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ptex1 is a member of the forum
Sorry, my bad...As a "Patroller", I should have posted a link...iM82 and iM88 Blowout
post #11 of 16

One key word: fun

I have skied most of the skis you listed and have spent limited time on both the iM82 and Nitrous. SierraJim hit the nail on the head when he noted that you have your answer already. Only one of the skis had the word "fun" in the review (isn't that adrenalin rush from fun the reason why we ski anyhow?!).

The iM82 obviously suits a lot of people, but I prefer the Nitrous out of the two. In fact, I prefer the Legend 8800 (I know you listed the 8K) out of all of them. In the end, it is YOUR feeling about the ski that matters. I don't think you can go wrong with either of the shortlisted two.
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Length??
183 for a 5'11" 200lb guy
post #13 of 16
4076:

Personal preferences being what they are, you should take this into account. I always prefer a slightly easier going ski than a more agressive one if given the choice.

I like the Nitrous as a nimble ski that is smoother and more damp than say the 8K or the AMC 79 (both very good skis BTW) I relate the iM 82 more to the Nordica Top Fuel which is a powerhouse similar to the iM 82. I skied the iM 82 twice this year and I appreciated it but (like the im 77) I thought it was too much work for my personal tastes. FWIW, I think the Nitrous is possibly the best value on the market when one considers performance delivered for the price paid.

Were I to make a road trip to Mammoth in mid-winter, I'd take a Nitrous and a Gotama. (if forced to take only one,..........: I'd split the difference and take the '08 Mythic Rider)

SJ
post #14 of 16
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mid-fat ski for western skiing

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Originally Posted by SierraJim View Post
4076:

Personal preferences being what they are, you should take this into account. I always prefer a slightly easier going ski than a more agressive one if given the choice.

I like the Nitrous as a nimble ski that is smoother and more damp than say the 8K or the AMC 79 (both very good skis BTW) I relate the iM 82 more to the Nordica Top Fuel which is a powerhouse similar to the iM 82. I skied the iM 82 twice this year and I appreciated it but (like the im 77) I thought it was too much work for my personal tastes. FWIW, I think the Nitrous is possibly the best value on the market when one considers performance delivered for the price paid.

Were I to make a road trip to Mammoth in mid-winter, I'd take a Nitrous and a Gotama. (if forced to take only one,..........: I'd split the difference and take the '08 Mythic Rider)

SJ
thanks sj,
the nitrous it is....
i'm too light for the im82 or top fuel for ALL DAY skiing...
i'll be looking at your shop today...

marc..
post #15 of 16
SJ- not to hijack the thread, but what have you been finding in mythic riders when you've drilled them? Our tech drilled two pairs back in february and he said there was no metal in either and the "wood" looked more like what came out of the core of a Salomon. This, of course, would be contrary to what Dynastar lists in their catalog- wood & titanal sandwich.
post #16 of 16
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SJ- not to hijack the thread, but what have you been finding in mythic riders when you've drilled them? Our tech drilled two pairs back in february and he said there was no metal in either and the "wood" looked more like what came out of the core of a Salomon. This, of course, would be contrary to what Dynastar lists in their catalog- wood & titanal sandwich.
Hmmmm......I don't see "titanal" listed in the catalog that I have (the big all products one) in either the thumbnail or in the little recap thing in the back. I'm pretty confident that they never intended metal in the final version. I know Jean-Renaud Daniel reasonably well and he told me in LV that they tested metal and non metal versions and everybody liked the non metal better. FWIW they do list wood/metal for the L-8000 and all the big dogs.

As far as the wood looking like it came from a Salomon......I dunno. For sure, this year's Fury was promised as being wood but actually wasn't (it was that combo core) but it has been a long time since I drilled one of the flat Furys and I don't remember how the shavings looked. It happens that I drilled my personal pairs of Mythics and Gotamas back to back and what came out of the two looked the same (to me at least). Subjectively, I'd say there was more resistance to the drill on the Mythic (harder wood?????)

Another FWIW, but I like it just the way it is. I think we are gonna dub it the "Mini Pro"

SJ
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