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Which skis to buy

post #1 of 14
4/23/07 at 4:51am
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Hi all,

I am off on an 8 week jaunt to Whistler next year to improve my skiing and am wondering which skis (one or two sets) to buy.

I am a strong intermediate skiier and usually ski on twin tips (Public Enemy's last year) or Salomon X-max.

I quite fancy twin tips as I like playing around (but would want versatile twin tips such as PE's , Volkl Karmas or maybe Scratch FS) but wondering whether I should also get some all mountain skis which perform well on bumps, powder, ice and groomed piste.

Any advice on whether twin tips and all mountain is the way to go and if so any recommendations, particularly for the all mountain skis.

Thanks.
Matt.
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post #2 of 14
4/23/07 at 5:54am
The only one of those you mentioned that I have personal experience is the Karma, which IMO is as good as an all mountain ski for most of the conditions. Due to the fact that you like your PE's, I see no reason to alter your ski choice. Many here have them and get a lot out of them for many conditions. Just make sure you post a trip report and do a lot of this >
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post #3 of 14
4/23/07 at 5:55am
Why don't you stay with the PE's if you already know you like them? Most people tend to think they are a pretty good all around ski.

Maybe add another ski to the PE's and be all set for your trip. Others can give better advice than me for a good second ski.

Mike
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post #4 of 14
4/23/07 at 6:02am
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Originally Posted by trekchick View Post
The only one of those you mentioned that I have personal experience is the Karma, which IMO is as good as an all mountain ski for most of the conditions. Due to the fact that you like your PE's, I see no reason to alter your ski choice. Many here have them and get a lot out of them for many conditions. Just make sure you post a trip report and do a lot of this >
yep stick with what you like. the PEs kill it just about everywhere.
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post #5 of 14
4/23/07 at 6:06am
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The only issue I really found with the PE's was the lack of grip on ice. Not sure if it was my technique or the ski ?

Had some pretty decent powder out in Courcheval on them in February but not sure how they are rated in powder.
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post #6 of 14
4/23/07 at 6:26am
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The only issue I really found with the PE's was the lack of grip on ice. Not sure if it was my technique or the ski ?

Had some pretty decent powder out in Courcheval on them in February but not sure how they are rated in powder.
If you are thinking about expanding your quiver and would like to take two skis on your trip.................that's a whole different question.

PE's and AC4?
The AC4 isn't a twin but you already have that in the PE and you could use an all mountain to complete the quiver.
That's a grippy ski and will make you smile!!!
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post #7 of 14
4/23/07 at 6:29am
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The only issue I really found with the PE's was the lack of grip on ice. Not sure if it was my technique or the ski ?

Had some pretty decent powder out in Courcheval on them in February but not sure how they are rated in powder.
I never had problem in either condition with them. Ice just sharpen edge right and get that outside ski carving. Powder the tip is soft and long and will jsut float right to the top.

PE =85 mm
AC4 = 84mm

IF i got second ski it would be under 70mm and my third ski would be around 100mm
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post #8 of 14
4/23/07 at 6:50am
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Originally Posted by BushwackerinPA View Post
I never had problem in either condition with them. Ice just sharpen edge right and get that outside ski carving. Powder the tip is soft and long and will jsut float right to the top.

PE =85 mm
AC4 = 84mm

IF i got second ski it would be under 70mm and my third ski would be around 100mm
Once again Bushwacker makes sense
(I really hate to say that out loud. Don't want to have him getting a big head)

The only thing is.......the AC4 and the PE are two completely different skis. They perform differently and have a completely different edge hold. I would still consider these for the same quiver...........but thats just me and My quiver is out of control
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post #9 of 14
4/23/07 at 7:11am
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Thanks for replies to date - keep it up.

Just to add to the discussion I am a complete novice when it comes to anything bindings....

What should I be looking for in a binding, are there any I should look to pair with the twin tips (still not sure whether I will go for PE's, Karmas or Scratch FS's , I read an article a while back which rated the scratch FS's above the PE's or Karmas.)
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post #10 of 14
4/23/07 at 7:17am
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Originally Posted by trekchick View Post
Once again Bushwacker makes sense
(I really hate to say that out loud. Don't want to have him getting a big head)

The only thing is.......the AC4 and the PE are two completely different skis. They perform differently and have a completely different edge hold. I would still consider these for the same quiver...........but thats just me and My quiver is out of control
I totally agree with the Ac4 and PE being totally different and I could see owning both but then again I am an addict(like yourself). This guy already has a great Midfat in the PE his carver should be alittle more dedicated than a AC4. Plus I see owning a carver more important for him because the PE already covers all soft snow very easily.

TC me and you think alike, both of us are out of control when buying skis.

as for the big head, yeah I will stop doing that on here.......
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post #11 of 14
4/23/07 at 7:34am
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Originally Posted by BushwackerinPA View Post
I totally agree with the Ac4 and PE being totally different and I could see owning both but then again I am an addict(like yourself). This guy already has a great Midfat in the PE his carver should be alittle more dedicated than a AC4. Plus I see owning a carver more important for him because the PE already covers all soft snow very easily.

TC me and you think alike, both of us are out of control when buying skis.

as for the big head, yeah I will stop doing that on here.......
So what carver would you recommend in this case?
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post #12 of 14
4/23/07 at 8:28am
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Originally Posted by BushwackerinPA View Post
TC me and you think alike, both of us are out of control when buying skis.

as for the big head, yeah I will stop doing that on here.......
Say it ain't so Bush!!!!!


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Originally Posted by TacticalNuke View Post
So what carver would you recommend in this case?
I'd recommend the Volkl Allstar, Nordica Speed Machine, Fischer RX8, Elan Speedwave...............you can almost throw a dart and hit a great carver!
But I wouldn't recommend it, because the dart would mess up the top sheet.
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post #13 of 14
4/23/07 at 10:05am
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So If I am reading the replies right I am thinking a pair of all round twin tips (PE's , Karma or Scratch FS) for powder , bumps and playing and a pair of carvers for groomed , icy conditions and speedstering

Sounds great.

Any advice on bindings or just go with what is recommended by the supplier.

Thanks for all the advice - don't think I've ever been on a board which people are so willing to help !

Yours,
A happy and excited Brit looking forward to his first extended trip.
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post #14 of 14
4/23/07 at 11:48am
You won't have a whole lot of binding choices on many of the carvers since a lot of them have "system" bindings which are paired with the skis.

Have fun in your carving ski search! Personally, I just bought a new pair of 07 Fischer RX8's. Have to wait till next year to ski them though!

Mike
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