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How are Squaw and Alpine?

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I'm planning to do a little more skiing tomorrow. Either place really beat up? Really good?
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Alpine was very good today. They had limited terrain off summit open. No hikes and Wolverine was closed from the top entry. (People were traversing in from the D's to the lower part of Wolverine.)

It is suppose to be very warm tomorrow. So, if you hit the hikes early the skiing should be awesome. High Beaver and High Yellow Face are the areas I'm thinking of.

Have fun.

50/50 this was the last day of my season (might ski this sat). If so, a 15" powder day was a great way to wrap things up.
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I've never been to Squaw and I was thinking of taking the family on a trip up there to ski this Saturday and Sunday. Squaw's web site says they're open today only until 3. It also looks like not much is open. Does that change for the weekend? It's also supposed to be pretty warm this week. Any opinions as to whether it's worth a trip to Squaw this weekend (3.5 - 4 hours each way, some work to get everybody/everything together for a trip), keeping in mind that probably only I will ski (I might be able to coax my 3 year old out to the magic carpet and beginner lift area - he's been "out" 2 days this year, but on the second he wasn't too crazy about the whole thing) and I'm almost exclusively a black/blue groomer skier?
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Unfortunately the ski patrol never opened Beaver and Estelle yesterday. There's a whole thread on TGR moaning about it. I eventually did one run from Lower Saddle, but spent too much of the day mucking around with equipment before doing it, and it was pretty gross.

Worth going to Squaw? I will be, but it's under an hour away from where I am. I wouldn't go there on a day-trip, with how the weather's supposed to be all week - should be morning ice followed by afternoon mank. Maybe corn in some places, but it sounds like that's not necessarily your style?
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Worth going to Squaw? I will be, but it's under an hour away from where I am. I wouldn't go there on a day-trip, with how the weather's supposed to be all week - should be morning ice followed by afternoon mank. Maybe corn in some places, but it sounds like that's not necessarily your style?
OK, gaper time. I see these terms (mank, corn) used a lot to describe snow conditions. Is "mank" just slushy stuff? What is "corn?"
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magic carpet and beginner lift area
Bear in mind that Squaw's carpet is at 6200 feet, and presumably closed. There's a beginner area at High Camp, but it requires use of chairlifts.


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OK, gaper time. I see these terms (mank, corn) used a lot to describe snow conditions. Is "mank" just slushy stuff? What is "corn?"
Mank is another term for Sierra Cement -- dense, heavy, wet, but soft snow.

Corn is snow that has been pelletized by multiple freeze/melt cycles. Good explanation here.
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Bear in mind that Squaw's carpet is at 6200 feet, and presumably closed. There's a beginner area at High Camp, but it requires use of chairlifts.
Their web site says that, today, a carpet and beginner lift are operating at 6200 feet and several beginner lifts are open at High Camp. He's actually pretty good about riding the carpet and lift. He enjoys both - more than sliding down the hill, I think.

I don't know what got into his head, but on the way to the gondola at Northstar on his second day, he started saying he was scared (we'd had a pretty good first day, I thought) - not screaming or anything, just evidencing some trepidation. I thought I might try him again one more time this year, but maybe I'll just wait until next year (he did only just turn 3), when his Mom intends to try skiing for the first time (she was stuck this year tending to brother, who's only 8 months right now).
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Last weekend was phenomenal at Squaw- Sunday was a real powder day. With the warm weather now settled in, it is going to melt quite fast, but you will still be able to ski and enjoy the good weather and mountain scenery. it will be hard in the morning and soft in the afternoon, but you may still like it. A bonus is that Squaw is nearly empty now, so there is not that many people on the lift and slopes. Spring skiing is always enjoyable.

Alex
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Last weekend was phenomenal at Squaw- Sunday was a real powder day. With the warm weather now settled in, it is going to melt quite fast, but you will still be able to ski and enjoy the good weather and mountain scenery. it will be hard in the morning and soft in the afternoon, but you may still like it. A bonus is that Squaw is nearly empty now, so there is not that many people on the lift and slopes. Spring skiing is always enjoyable.

Alex
What I want to avoid (and I'm still inexperienced enough to not really be able to judge when this is likely to occur) is what I encountered two Fridays ago (the 13th) at Sierra during the afternoon, which was really uneven conditions in which I'd slide along well in some stretches (usually in the shade), then get slowed down significantly in others, so that I was frequently lurching back and forth due only to the snow conditions. It wasn't as bad on steep sections, because the speed enabled me to plow through, but it was still present, and the flatter sections really sucked. I called it quits early.
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What I want to avoid (and I'm still inexperienced enough to not really be able to judge when this is likely to occur) is what I encountered two Fridays ago (the 13th) at Sierra during the afternoon, which was really uneven conditions in which I'd slide along well in some stretches (usually in the shade), then get slowed down significantly in others, so that I was frequently lurching back and forth due only to the snow conditions. It wasn't as bad on steep sections, because the speed enabled me to plow through, but it was still present, and the flatter sections really sucked. I called it quits early.
It's key in spring skiing to WAX YOUR SKIS every night with good spring wax.
In my experience over the last two years, if the temps get above 55F, it gets unskiable pretty fast. Below that is nice spring conditions.

Sunday was an amazing day at Alpine! They have tons of snow, no problem there.
post #11 of 12
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It also helps to pay attention to where the sun is. An east-facing slope will soften sooner, get sticky sooner, and turn into corn sooner (though this seems to have a lot to do with density of the snow - I think groomers go straight from sticky to slushy.) A west-facing slope will do all the same things, but later in the day. A steep, north-facing slope frequently stays good longer, and conditions are generally better in the trees as well.

When I did Alpine yesterday, I called it at 2 - things were just too heavy and sticky.
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[quote=Woodstocksez;699419] Squaw's web site says they're open today only until 3. It also looks like not much is open. exclusively a black/blue [quote]

according to the ski bus, only 5-6 Ski Lifts will be open from 9:00am to 3:00pm this Saturday. I look at their web site only one black lift is open ( Granite Chief), don't know if they will close it on Sat. I miss the dump over the weekend, so am thinking of going too.
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