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post #1 of 13
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There is an area in the supporters lounge called Supporter Technical Discussions.

If you are looking for a place to discuss a technical issue or an instruction issue with fellow instructors and professionals without hit and run interruptions or interference, this is the place for you. There is already some good discussions going on there now.

You must be a supporter to use this area.
post #2 of 13
Good catch. A similar idea was expressed in the "How to improve ESA" thread". I totally missed the fact that there is already a forum that captures essentially the same concept.
post #3 of 13
I just "Logged in" as nobody (used another browser that logged in as 'Guest') and was unable to View the Technical Discussions page.

I recall a promise to EpicSki participants that everyone would be able to Read (if not write-to) such discussions.

While I like the idea of a protected area for serious discussion and debate, I prefer those discussions be readable by everyone.

It would be unfair to 'Members' participating in a standard thread if we suddenly take a serious discussion out of public view just as it's getting good.

.ma
post #4 of 13
I don't see why they can't pony up the $20 just like everyone else to read premium content. The real simple truth is this (IMHO): many instructors and coaches have stopped participating in the technical forum due to the vast amounts of uneducated opinions posted here by the non-teaching public.
post #5 of 13
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Originally Posted by icanseeformiles(andmiles) View Post
The real simple truth is this (IMHO): many instructors and coaches have stopped participating in the technical forum due to the vast amounts of uneducated opinions posted here by the non-teaching public.
I am not yet a supporter as I just found this site a few weeks ago, but I will likely join. However this post gives me pause, who is allowed to post in these supporter-only sections? Only those with "educated opinions"?

After reading and trying to understand 700+ posts in BPST thread, I find it bit offensive for the discussion to be moved elsewhere. Yes, I suppose it is motivation to become a supporter, but taken with the above posting, it seems like a discouragement for folks to become involved (e.g., by posting) in such threads. I am wondering if I have come to the right ski community...

--Lee Hetherington
post #6 of 13
I'm sorry if that sounds elitist to you...but, we used to have many high-level coaches and instructors (alas, I am not one) who have stopped writing in the technical forum, mostly due to the uninformed opinions that have contradicted their advice. I, for one, welcome a more inviting place where I can learn from more experienced coaches and instructors.
post #7 of 13
ILH,
You're probably in the right place for interesting discussions and lots of good information.

You're also in the right place for lots of alternate opinions - which is why new ideas come to life here rather than on highly constrained sites that practive cult-like indoctrination and who exercise overbearing control over what is posted.

Here, I can opine the desire to see more strongly moderated discussions kept in the open and Ican.C can post a rebuttal perspective. Kinda nice if you ask me.

As you state, I too think non-subscribers would be irritated by discussions-of-merit being concluded behind closed doors after you participte in it for a while. It would 'feel' like Bait & Switch conduct to me.

A more polite carrot to subscribe would be to conduct entire invitational roundtable discussions (start to finish) behind closed Supporter doors - and allow non-subscribers to see only an outline or abstract of the disscussion.

.ma
post #8 of 13
ilh,

Any EpicSki Supporter may post in the Support Technical Discussions, EpicSki Supporter Lounge, and Politics and Hot Topics.

In the EpicSki Classic Threads area you may read the threads. These are copies of the original threads. There is a link at the end of each classic thread back to the original. If you want to resurrect a thread you may by linking back to the original and then adding a post. This way these great threads are open to all EpicSki members. The Classic Threads area is a way for supporters to easily find some of the more interesting threads on EpicSki. The threads are from nominations by various Supporters.

The Premium Article Collection is a series of articles on various topics. These are available for reading only.

Hope this gives you an idea of what goes on "Behind the Velvet Rope."
post #9 of 13
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Only those with "educated opinions"?
Nope, they let me post there also.
Become a supporter. Support the forum and join.
post #10 of 13
If you pay and post your ability with your question, do you get the same level of abuse as normal? Or does it have a higher quality level due to the fact I paid to receive it?

Sean
post #11 of 13
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If you pay and post your ability with your question, do you get the same level of abuse as normal? Or does it have a higher quality level due to the fact I paid to receive it?

Sean

Now, that's a great question.
post #12 of 13
Here, the quality of abuse you receive has less to do with your own Status as a Consumer than it has to do with the Quality (and Desired Status) of the Vendor.

If one appears to be an Uninformed Newbie, the Charlatans and Trolls may jump right in to sell you a Fake Product, the Groupies may try to sell you a reasonable knockoff of the Real Product - and the Moonies will always begin selling you book(s) by their Master and their own cult doctrine (regardless of your Status).

Your only hope is to weed through the rubble of varied information and make your own selections and/or decisions (just like in the real world). Becoming a Supporter helps to keep the party rolling.

.ma
post #13 of 13
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Originally Posted by UnSean View Post
If you pay and post your ability with your question, do you get the same level of abuse as normal? Or does it have a higher quality level due to the fact I paid to receive it?

Sean
The level of your ability seldom matters to the level of your post. A good post with a good topic or reply speaks for itself. The same goes for your ability. Let is speak for itself also. Or assume many here can ski so there is not need to offer your view of specific ability.
Abuse come from sticking ones neck out there. There is always someone out there who might have a swing at you. Don't sweat it , most here are very engaging to discuss with whether we agree or not.
You would fit in fine. I've met Bears from your part of the world. Maybe you'll ski with some .
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