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post #61 of 81
I remember old ski flicks and the skiers talking about how they built themselves up to those heights. I remember Scot talking about just gradually increasing your airs. A pretty simple, positive-positive progression, imo. But I don't think anybody goes out and says; "Okay, today I dropped a 7 footer, so tomorrow I'm going to attempt a 10 footer."

Terrain parks are different because they are engineered jumps that remain fairly consistent throughout the year and allow a fairly consitent progression in the skier as well.

As far as the mental part of it is concerned (the 99% part); If you are scared, it is ALMOST too big. If your friend pointed it out to you before you contemplated hitting it yourself, it IS too big.
post #62 of 81
me and my buddies recently started to do smaller drop pretty easily now, no stopping we can just go for it. This amoung the bigger stuff in the past week, biggest I have ever done in non powder conditions(done maybe twice this in powder)

This felt huge when I did it and my friend who i got pictures of said the same thing too. How big is the total drop? I said it was only 12 feet he said bigger than 15? who is right?







I know doesnt even compare to TS or samurai but was wondering your 2s opinion.
post #63 of 81
a one more thing to add all the drops that I have been hitting this year no longer thrill at all. The problem with skiing like this is you jsut keep wanting to find bigger things to jump off of.
post #64 of 81
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BushwakerinPA

I'd say the total drop looks like it was 12-15' just from the pics but it's so hard to judge. Looks good though congrats. The 15-17' that I did this year I heard from many people that it was anywhere from 10-30' if you can believe that! Def not 30' and more than 10'. So hard to judge height. I picture a basket ball rim, as everyone knows it's ten feet and I can visualize it well.
post #65 of 81
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Originally Posted by samurai View Post

As far as the mental part of it is concerned (the 99% part); If you are scared, it is ALMOST too big. If your friend pointed it out to you before you contemplated hitting it yourself, it IS too big.
^^ nailed it again!

It's nice to have guys like Samurai and TS in on this discussion, because they bring a level of experience previously not found on these boards. Big ups to both of you!
post #66 of 81
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I disagree with the notion that if you're scared it's too big("almost too big", not really sure what is meant by this). That's non-sense! I was scared of mine and did it. Now I want to go bigger. I was scared of certain terrain park jumps and kept doing them and now I'm totally comfortable with them. If you don't want to push your limits fine, but fear is usually what limits you not your ability. You have to over come fear to push past your limits whether that's speed, height or steepness etc...
post #67 of 81
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I disagree with the notion that if you're scared it's too big("almost too big", not really sure what is meant by this). That's non-sense! I was scared of mine and did it. Now I want to go bigger. I was scared of certain terrain park jumps and kept doing them and now I'm totally comfortable with them. If you don't want to push your limits fine, but fear is usually what limits you not your ability. You have to over come fear to push past your limits whether that's speed, height or steepness etc...
There's a difference between nervous energy and outright scared.

Nervous energy is there when something is big, or as Samuri said, "Almost" too big. Although you know it's within your limits, you also know it's darn close to the edge of those limits.

Outright scared is a whole 'nother ballgame. That feeling is really your body/brain telling you NO, this is a really bad idea. You're out of your league, at which point the attempt goes from relying on calculated risk to sheer luck.

I deal with nervous energy all the time, especially when standing atop big drops and/or the in-run to a big park feature. That's when I start thinking, c'mon people, let's get this set up and done...the longer I stand here, the easier it's going to be to talk myself out of it.

If the only thing I feel at the top of something is scared, I walk away. Some fear motivates, but too much paralyzes - figuratively as well as literally.
post #68 of 81
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There's a difference between nervous energy and outright scared.

Nervous energy is there when something is big, or as Samuri said, "Almost" too big. Although you know it's within your limits, you also know it's darn close to the edge of those limits.

Outright scared is a whole 'nother ballgame. That feeling is really your body/brain telling you NO, this is a really bad idea. You're out of your league, at which point the attempt goes from relying on calculated risk to sheer luck.

I deal with nervous energy all the time, especially when standing atop big drops and/or the in-run to a big park feature. That's when I start thinking, c'mon people, let's get this set up and done...the longer I stand here, the easier it's going to be to talk myself out of it.

If the only thing I feel at the top of something is scared, I walk away. Some fear motivates, but too much paralyzes - figuratively as well as literally.
Got it! We agree.
post #69 of 81
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Got it! We agree.
Proving once again that those who huck themselves on a regular basis are not, on the whole, stupid!
post #70 of 81
My best with a clean landing is only about 10 feet. My biggest without skiing away is probably about 15 feet.

It's not often the snow is good enough down here to go any bigger than that!
post #71 of 81
Totall agree on the nervous-scared vs. absolutely-crapping-your-pants scared. The nervous-scared is good...it leads to a heightened awareness and focus that really makes you concentrate on all the different variables involved. Sometimes it leads to you backing off and waiting for another day, and sometimes it says all systems go. It's when you don't listen to that little voice that the nervous-energy can become dangerous.

As for more huck pics, the Hospital Air pics I posted earlier in this thread were from last year. And as for this year, with the horrible low snowpack all year, I rarely launched anything, but this vid has my biggest air from this year....too bad I pancaked it completely, but I knew my chances of sticking it were pretty damn low. It's in this video at about the 3:30 mark:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wQOLxQZXKw
post #72 of 81
That fall had some potential for some real damage...Glad to see you were o.k., TS.
post #73 of 81
You broke a ski on that landing, eh TS? Or, a binding pulled out or something? That's fricking Impact, imo. You're one athletic dude to have skis breaking from impact before bones and/or muscle give-in.

i've broken many skis- mainly from crashing into rocks, trees, landing on rocks, airing into rock-gardens. Once, in an event, I left the ground before spotting my landing and aired 40 or 50 to rock. In the air, I knew something had to give, so I intentially tried to break my skis. I slammed them hard into a basketball-sized rock and nothing happened. Well... I didn't walk straight for two weeks, I thought I broke my spine the moment after impact, but nothing happened to my ski. When i got to the bottom, there was a golf-ball sized dent under my foot. Not even a blown edge. Since then... I have sworn by volkls. In NZ, the following season, I spent my entire last day of the season TRYING to break my skis. I was airing into rock gardens, one ski on snow, one ski on rock and they just weren't breaking. I even wrote Volkl a letter thanking them for their quality. This is in the G41 days.

Now in Japan, I don't have many airs available. It's all trees for me. Tron-skiing is the new vibe here. F*** up and you're out- skis broken or not. I can't imagine hitting a tree at the speeds fat skis allow in soft snow. Nonetheless, adrenaline-freaky lines or not, I do miss those moments of spotting landings .2 seconds before leaving the ground.
post #74 of 81
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You broke a ski on that landing, eh TS? Or, a binding pulled out or something? .
oh no...didn't break a ski or anything. when I got spun around after the impact, the tail of them just kinda dug into the snow and caused the binding to release. nothing broken though. I thought i did though honestly. the skis I was on were DP Lotus 138's...which are primarily carbon. I thought for sure something would have happened to them but nothing.

this video has my entire crappy run from the Finals (entered the top at the wrong spot and got lost...blah), but you get a close up and some different angles of the explosion at the bottom :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogTUrMGpiSk

now...earlier in the morning during my inspection run, THAT's when I broke the heels of the bindings (Solly Z12's) on the skis I was intending to use (PMGear Brohemoths). Really not sure how that happened though...might have happened the day before or during qualifying, and then just completely gave out in inspections.

that's nuts about trying to break your Volkl's.

BTW -- did you ski at Kirkwood 2000-2001 or '01 - '02? I think when I first arrived at KW a buddy of mine introduced me to someone who I swear said that they were moving to Japan the next season or something.......
post #75 of 81
good damn TS i was watching that video ann I was like thats a doable drop(well on video I can arm chair quarter back) then the last drop and I ma think holy **** TS is ******* crazy mother******!!!
post #76 of 81
heh..yeah, my first drop was totally doable and easy. the problem i was having with it was i didn't scout it at all in the morning. i had dropped in too low along the ridge and missed where I originally wanted to go. so when i'm making those first turns in the little chute I'm just like, "****, ****, ****..where now...oh, let's see what's over here...". And then when i saw the air, I wanted to try and get back to skiers left, but the way take off was, I really couldn't land and get going that way. So when I'm putzing around at the top, i'm thinking, "crap, can i go left? no. ****. but my entire line is to the left. crap. gotta go right. damn it. lemme get down lower and see if I can go left. ah crap taht was dumb...shoulda pointed it from the top. this is looking LAME! ah **** it...go left."

the little air I found with the nice tranny after that was fun at least
post #77 of 81
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BTW -- did you ski at Kirkwood 2000-2001 or '01 - '02? I think when I first arrived at KW a buddy of mine introduced me to someone who I swear said that they were moving to Japan the next season or something.......
My last winter was half of '02/'03. Then I went to Chile, then Japan. Who was your buddy? I think after Chile, I came up for a few runs in 04 before moving to Japan. We probably did ski together at some point.
post #78 of 81
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My last winter was half of '02/'03. Then I went to Chile, then Japan. Who was your buddy? I think after Chile, I came up for a few runs in 04 before moving to Japan. We probably did ski together at some point.

Do you know a Don? Short Philipino guy with an quasi-Australian accent? Used to ski on Air Raid topsheet Iggy FaGS.

the guy's name I'm thinking of started with an N. and I think had the cover photo on the KW trail map one of those years. i remember him telling me he used to like to jump off things, and he competed a bit, and I swear he was moving to japan. Weird how you remember one off conversations. Am I remembering you maybe?
post #79 of 81
I know Don. Funny mofo. and that trail map will be the death of me- can't believe my identity has been cracked by something so demeaning. Oh well... sack up and admit our flaws, I guess.

I quite liked skiing with Don, funny dorks are fun to hang out with. Sorry, I don't recognize you through your fullface.
post #80 of 81
hah..funny sh-ite

Don posts over at TGR as Superstar Punani by the way.
post #81 of 81
I just went over to TGR and looked up superstar. holy LMFAO!!! That dude's a character, man. Does he still ski with his arms out like he's hugging a fricking redwood?

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