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Visited the Stockli office Today

post #1 of 13
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Today I had a chance to stop in a talk with the stockli importer and there are some awesome looking skis slated for next year . The new race skis look fast on the rack . The midfats and powder skis look great as well but some of the new graphics are getting a little crazy .

Dave
post #2 of 13
The XXL is going to do really well.
post #3 of 13
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yes, I think the XXL is going to be a great ski as well as them having 2 rotor skis . The new GS and Sl skis should be more user friendly and pick up a few more sales for stockli .
post #4 of 13

stockli laser all-mtn ski

hi stockli fans,

anyone know how a 167 laser (not laser PRO) at 72mm waist would compare on snow to 172 dynastar contact 11, or 170 nordi mach 3 carbon ...all with same 72mm waists...laser is billed as all-mtn as are contact 11 and mach 3....

thanks....nfp158
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I've been on all 3, great skis one and all. IMHO the Laser Cross is a cut above the other 2 in terms of both performance and demand it places on the skier. I don't know what your frame of reference is but I personally thought the Laser Cross just a bit too demanding as an all day ski. Great for maybe a few hours but fatigueing for the entire day. Try before you buy.
post #6 of 13
There are no Laser all-mountain skis. Lasers are from the race line. There are GS, SL, combi and cross models but none are what we typically call all-mountain, although the combi (SC) could be great all-mountain groomed. But what the hell does all-mountain mean anyway?

Laser Cross's are very very damp and not in my opion overly exciting all-day skis unless you are going to be going very fast in icy-terrrain or skiing bobsled shaped embankments. Stick with other skis from the Stockli line and chances are you'll like them better.

Where do you ski and what do you like?
post #7 of 13

2 Rotors?

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Originally Posted by Gator View Post
yes, I think the XXL is going to be a great ski as well as them having 2 rotor skis . The new GS and Sl skis should be more user friendly and pick up a few more sales for stockli .
Just wondering about the two Rotor models... and are they changing the graphics on those?
post #8 of 13

Yup, graphics are changing

AndrewJ,

See the link below for the 07-08 catalog, including pics of the new rotors

http://www.parax.si/datoteke/katalog07_08.pdf

Note: this is the Euro version so won't find any info about the Schmidt (US only ski)
post #9 of 13
Anyone who thinks that 63mm under foot equates to a good 'all mountain' ski needs their head examined. The Laser SC is a barely de-tuned SL ski and known to be a good masters race ski ie firm to hard snow, going fast and turning hard.

Yes any decent skier can ski this ski anywhere but why ruin a good powder day or gladed run by having to work to hard because one is on a high performance, groomed terrain carving ski.

Rotor is all mountain - one can ski it shorter than one thinks.

Had a look at the PDF - this must be the catalogue for the USA as I cannot imagine Stockli running anything other than VIST plates and bindings in Europe/ NZ/ Canada (USA has insurance issues apparently).
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Had a look at the PDF - this must be the catalogue for the USA as I cannot imagine Stockli running anything other than VIST plates and bindings in Europe/ NZ/ Canada (USA has insurance issues apparently).
The lack of VIST is perplexing but I'm pretty sure this is an EU catalog. www.parax.si is the site for a shop based in Slovenia.
post #11 of 13
I'm going to get me some of those XXLs for sure. This might be The Ski (and my Phat Luvs are in the US).
And yeah, the SCs with their 63mm waist are NOT all mountain. They sink in soft and become bloody nasty. In hard, and bumps and going fast, they are magic, but once there's a few inches of good soft, they are no fun at all.
post #12 of 13
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I don't know what your frame of reference is but I personally thought the Laser Cross just a bit too demanding as an all day ski. Great for maybe a few hours but fatigueing for the entire day. Try before you buy.
I definitely agree that you should try before you buy. My experience with the Laser Cross (yellow ski, not Laser Cross Pro) is that it is one of the easiest skis I've had. I have no trouble skiing it all day and find it incredibly non-demanding. I'm 5'7", 170, 44 y/o. I haven't skied the other skis that Robscapes mentions, but I am amazed each time I ski the Laser Cross how easy it turns at low speeds, but never loses it's composure at high speeds. So, yes, do demo!
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I definitely agree that you should try before you buy. My experience with the Laser Cross (yellow ski, not Laser Cross Pro) is that it is one of the easiest skis I've had. I have no trouble skiing it all day and find it incredibly non-demanding. I'm 5'7", 170, 44 y/o. I haven't skied the other skis that Robscapes mentions, but I am amazed each time I ski the Laser Cross how easy it turns at low speeds, but never loses it's composure at high speeds. So, yes, do demo!
I just want to say hello. I am new to this forum but have been a longtime lurker!

Regarding the previous post, I couldn't agree more. The '07 Stockli Laser Cross(length 167) is the easiest turning ski I have ever used. My physical dimensions are about the same as quickk9's so maybe we fit the niche. The Laser Cross is also a very capable and versatile ski. I had a pair of Volkl 5 stars a couple of years ago but that ski is so overrated. The Laser Cross is more stable, faster turning, lighter, more lively, and is better in soft snow.

I disagree with Race510's assessment that the Laser Cross is not suitable for all day use. While it can be skied slowly and gently with no problems, it begs to be skied hard and fast because it is so capable! This truly is a ski that can be used by intermediates and experts as well! It is not as specialized as some of the other Stocklis and because of this, makes a great "All Mountain Ski".
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