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The Fischer's & Atomics are up. Ski Depot has good product images on this website: http://www.ski-depot.com/miva/mercha...y_Code=2008ski
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I just drooled over the Cold Heats, they even have my size....
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Ya, the Big Heats look sick. Does anyone know about them?
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I believe dawgcatching reviewed one or more of the heats -- look over in the gear reviews. I talked to one guy who demoed them right after the SIA show, and he seemed to think they were pretty freaking awesome. I am wondering about the feel myself, as they are awful beefy construction with a lot of width and a healthy sidecut (same sidecut as the narrower Cold Heat and Cool Heat models). That is a combination I have not really demoed in other skis. The Elan Magfire Magma and Mag 12 are only 82mm waist but have even more sidecut. I have to wonder how dodgy/hooky they will be in crud with the wide tips and healthy sidecut. These may be the skis that go a little overboard with the combination of construction, width, and sidecut. We'll see. Hope I can demo them next fall!
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Ya, the Big Heats look sick. Does anyone know about them?
Ditto . . . . I understand (via Sierra Jim) that they are stiffer then the Hellcats. I'd love to see a comparison between the Big Heats, the Hellcats, and most importantly the Mantra.

This seems like a great front side oriented ski with some girth under foot and soft snow versatility - the way I currently use my Mantras.
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These may be the skis that go a little overboard with the combination of construction, width, and sidecut. We'll see. Hope I can demo them next fall!
I think this is about right. MHO is that the giant carvers are a bit overbuilt to be truly versatile soft/broken snow skis. The 'Cat and the BH are both better as front side skis than the Mantra because of far superior dampening. One should remember however that (at least IMO) this is a comparison that is a little unfair to the Mantra. The others are more sophisticated, plated, integrated, Flowflexed, etc skis whereas the Mantra is a simple flat laminate and is still quite a bit cheaper even when a binding set up is considered.

When I posted the thread about "giant carvers" a while back I was a little at sea as to what to put on the wall for next near. I usually buy about 40-50 models of flat tail men's skis and that's a lot, but I don't buy everything. Since then, I've skied quite a bit on the 'Cat and a little more on the BH. More importantly to me is that I've gotten quite a bit of feedback from friends and customers whose opinions I respect. The 'Cat is a lot of ski, but it's not really hard to ski it's just BIG. The BH is more ski and I think is a bit much for most of my customers. In the interest of feeling out consumer reaction to these biggies, I'm only going to carry one example and it will be the Hellcat.

I will say that if I were forced at gunpoint to ski 60 MPH over rough, rock hard snow, I'd probably pick the Big Heat as the best tool.

Then again...........I'd probably just take the bullet............

SJ
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Christmas in April.
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