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Crystal Mt. WA Announces new Chairlift

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Crystal mt. announced today a new high speed fixed double going into the Northback country this summer. The Northway lift will expand lift served terrain from 1300 to 2300 acres and serve terrain currently patrolled and avalanche controlled but only previously accesible by hiking.

http://www.skicrystal.com/1730.html

Crystal is owned by Boyne and also owns Big Sky & Brighton
post #2 of 14

new lift at crystal ...this is good news??

If it were only an april fools joke... The new lift is no cause for celebration unless you are totally lazy or fat. It will turn a vast amount of hike-accessable backcountry into bumps for the masses. Many of us will have a private memorial service for our great loss. Also interesting that on the vary day of the announcement CM announces early bird season pass sale and regular pass prices that went up considerably since last year. Guess you are going to have to pay more to ski less!
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Yea I agree, I'm not sure how I feel about all this. They aren't really going to be offloading much skier traffic from the front side it sounds like, only adding like 5% lift capacity with that double chair they are putting in. Ridiculous. So the snow will get tracked up and everyone will have to stand in a long line too. Wonderful. Well I hope there is more backcountry even further north to hike to. We'll have to see. Looks like if there is, there won't be an easy way back to base though.

I'm not sure what to think about the new pass prices either. guess they gotta pay for it somehow. Oh well, it is what it is.
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Just curious, Will a fixed grip double chair carry enough people to ski off and bump up 1,000 acres?
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Just curious, Will a fixed grip double chair carry enough people to ski off and bump up 1,000 acres?
probably not.
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If it were only an april fools joke... The new lift is no cause for celebration unless you are totally lazy or fat. It will turn a vast amount of hike-accessable backcountry into bumps for the masses. Many of us will have a private memorial service for our great loss. Also interesting that on the vary day of the announcement CM announces early bird season pass sale and regular pass prices that went up considerably since last year. Guess you are going to have to pay more to ski less!
There are always negative morons in every group whose cup is always 1/2 empty!

Did you think they spent Millions of $$$ and all that time and effort to get their master plan approved just to hang a Map on the wall?

I am happy to hear you won't be skiing there anymore. One less person to cut up the North back!:
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Just curious, Will a fixed grip double chair carry enough people to ski off and bump up 1,000 acres?
Yes... the terrain is comparable to what you get riding the fixed grip (even slower) double chair 6 ... witness the bumps in powder bowl and under the throne, This new chair eliminates the three dis-incentives to skiiing northback which up to now have limited the intrusion of the masses: (1) reqt to hike to ski stuff off northway peak, (2) reqt to ski long traverse down hoChiMinh/I5 trail to return to area, which effectively removed most snowboarders from the area, (3) reqt to take shuttle bus from bottom of northway back to area when skiing most of the brandX. The only thing they can't take away (though the MtRainer park service tried) is backcountry accessed skiing down to hwy 410 which
requires a 3-6 mile ski-out below uncontrolled terrain and a 6 mile hitchhike.
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Yes... the terrain is comparable to what you get riding the fixed grip (even slower) double chair 6 ... witness the bumps in powder bowl and under the throne, This new chair eliminates the three dis-incentives to skiiing northback which up to now have limited the intrusion of the masses: (1) reqt to hike to ski stuff off northway peak, (2) reqt to ski long traverse down hoChiMinh/I5 trail to return to area, which effectively removed most snowboarders from the area, (3) reqt to take shuttle bus from bottom of northway back to area when skiing most of the brandX. The only thing they can't take away (though the MtRainer park service tried) is backcountry accessed skiing down to hwy 410 which
requires a 3-6 mile ski-out below uncontrolled terrain and a 6 mile hitchhike.
yeah, ski to 410 in unpatrolled/ avalanche uncontrolled area and you too can get the bejeebers beat out of by an avalanche like my buddy did on 02/024/07. As i am sure you know, he is no longer with us! tragic.

A great way to permanently keep you out of Northback/southback. You won't have to worry about lift ticket prices ever again either!

Get used to it! This is just the beginning! Doesn't the plan call for a total of 14 lifts! there are 9 now & Northway would be 10!
post #9 of 14
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yeah, ski to 410 in unpatrolled/ avalanche uncontrolled area and you too can get the bejeebers beat out of by an avalanche like my buddy did on 02/024/07. As i am sure you know, he is no longer with us! tragic.

A great way to permanently keep you out of Northback/southback. You won't have to worry about lift ticket prices ever again either!
I'm quite aware of the risks and your buddy made a very poor and unfortunate choice that day. I had just skied down chest-deep blower pow before learning about this from patrol doing sweep. Given your remarks I can understand why you like the new chair as it makes the skiing easy and eliminates the avy risk since everything will be tracked out. I go for the pow and make calculated risks, and to-date my calculations have kept me alive and rewarded. Unlikely you will see me in northback, though I will be there in places you don't go or don't know how to get to or get out of.
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I'm quite aware of the risks and your buddy made a very poor and unfortunate choice that day. I had just skied down chest-deep blower pow before learning about this from patrol doing sweep. Given your remarks I can understand why you like the new chair as it makes the skiing easy and eliminates the avy risk since everything will be tracked out. I go for the pow and make calculated risks, and to-date my calculations have kept me alive and rewarded. Unlikely you will see me in northback, though I will be there in places you don't go or don't know how to get to or get out of.
Good news!
post #11 of 14
ripn, you can always hike to the King, Three Way, or up the east side if you want your exercise.


A-man, do you know Vince L?
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ripn, you can always hike to the King, Three Way, or up the east side if you want your exercise.


A-man, do you know Vince L?
I don't think so.

By the way, was at Crystal yesterday! Incredibley good day. cool breeze kept the snow decent, even off-piste, although icy & crunchy underneath, was pretty damn good!
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Yes... the terrain is comparable to what you get riding the fixed grip (even slower) double chair 6 ... witness the bumps in powder bowl and under the throne, This new chair eliminates the three dis-incentives to skiiing northback which up to now have limited the intrusion of the masses: (1) reqt to hike to ski stuff off northway peak, (2) reqt to ski long traverse down hoChiMinh/I5 trail to return to area, which effectively removed most snowboarders from the area, (3) reqt to take shuttle bus from bottom of northway back to area when skiing most of the brandX. The only thing they can't take away (though the MtRainer park service tried) is backcountry accessed skiing down to hwy 410 which
requires a 3-6 mile ski-out below uncontrolled terrain and a 6 mile hitchhike.
You can't be serious that a couple-o-bumps are going to deter ya?

i'd rather ski some chopped up pow & a couple of bumps then hike to get 12 decent turns and then beat the hell out of myself on that Communist trail!
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You can't be serious that a couple-o-bumps are going to deter ya?

i'd rather ski some chopped up pow & a couple of bumps then hike to get 12 decent turns and then beat the hell out of myself on that Communist trail!
If I want bumps I ski frontside under rex (which I do often). For pow I go to various places "out north, intentionally vague" where I get alot more than 12 turns in areas that are known to mostly locals who have been skiing there for decades. Take brandX for example ... 1500+ vertical untracked powder which I routinely hit when untracked. To bad that you didn't figure this out before now since after this season it will be history. Agree on the communist trail ... I was the only one on it last wknd and used it to access powder sunday while the rest of the masses were skiing nasty ice. Possible that southback had some pow too, though my preference is for northback as the hike to pow reward ratio is higher for me.
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