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Mogul Skis and bindings

post #1 of 11
Thread Starter 
Hello there. I am an advanced mogul skiier (I ski with, and keep up with several members of the Winterpark Freestyle mogul team) and my current setup really isn't suited to Mary Jane style bumps...

Anyways I was looking for recommendations and spots to demo/buy for mogul skis and bindings. Almost every one on the mogul team has a pair of Dragonslayers, which I liked when I skied on them.

That said for whatever reason my current setup ( Salomon Hot Screams (165) & S912 Bindings) seems markedly stable in the bumps and the only issue I have is that I can't through the skis around fast enough for some of the more tight lines.
post #2 of 11
Sounds like you probably already know more than the rest of us but for what it's worth i'd suggest:

Skis: Something springy, possibly with carbon fibre top/bottom sheets. I have some Line Darkside Carbons and they're fun.

Boots: Something flexy, but only in the right direction. I'd suggest the Raichle/Kneissl Flexon (the Pro version is stiffer).

Bindings: If you're gonna flex those skis a lot then you'll want a binding that can cope well. I'd suggest you look at some AT bindings, such as the Fritschi Freeride, with its own support bar. This will allow the ski to flex without changing the grip on your boot. If you can find a pair, the discontinued Fritschi Rave should be ideal.
post #3 of 11
Dynastar Twister, Head Super Mogul, Volkl Rebellion (new Dragon Slayer). These are the cream of the crop for bump skiing. What you say you want to do would be best served by a TRUE mogul ski.

Personally I'd go with a real alpine ski binding mounted FLAT to the ski, Tyrolia Mojo 15, Look PX series or Rossi Axial 2 (same as Look) or FKS (best bump binding...ever).

You don't mention height or weight so length suggestions are impossible, just consider they are basically old school straight skis, they shouldn't be ridiculously short. Adult men are usually on 175cm-182cm skis.

I know where you can get a 175 Twister for a good price, PM me for info.
post #4 of 11
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they shouldn't be ridiculously short. Adult men are usually on 175cm-182cm skis
Why the longer length (than carvers) for bumps?

Just curious, still learning...
post #5 of 11
Fore/ aft balance. It really comes down to how you ski bumps. If you ski smooth round turns around the bumps short shapely skis work well, most ski instructors love SL sidecut skis in moguls. The OP says he is chasing Winterpark Freestyle Team members around in bumps...different story, these kids are charging zipperlines. No carving component to the turn, absorbtion and compression with some edge sets thrown in. Sidecut just gets in the way, short skis are too difficult to stay centered on (under these conditions).
post #6 of 11

get some rossignol fks155 bindings!

I dont know much about mogul skis, im a freerider, but i guess it all depends on what you want in a mogul ski. As for boots, get soft tongued ones cause mogul skiing put a lot of stess on your shins. Id recommend Raichle Flexon or Dabello Krypton boots. Lots of word cup moguls athletes and jibbers (Tanner Hall, Seth Morisson) use them. They are really nice even for freeriding. They are stiff laterally but have a medium-soft foward flex and for that, your shins will thanks you after a crash and at the ens of long days. Now for bindings, your gonna flex those skis a lot in the moguls so dont get AT bindings like the other guy said, youll break them in a week, very bad idea! Get either salomons 914s or rossignol fks155 with no lifters whatsoever, flat to the ski. The fks155 would be my first choice, almost every worldcup mogul athlete and pro jibber-freeskiers uses them. They are bombproof, all metal and still light enough. You can get some for like 199$(the cheapest i found) at http://www.coloradofreeride.com or just google up "rossignol fks155". Get the all black one, they are sick and them soon cause they are discontinued for next year. Pro will still uses them though, they have boxes full of them in their basements just like me. Raichle Flexon and Dabello Krypton boots are on sale at this time of the year online(ebay, backountry.com) so get them now for cheap is your size is still available. This time of year is really the best time to buy ski gear.
post #7 of 11
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the advice guys (especially on the bindings), as you all pointed out I forgot to include that I am 5'11'' and ~155lbs. So I am going to be looking for a 175-180cm ski.
post #8 of 11

mogul skis

i'd try to schmooz some of the guys on the winterpark team, perhaps
they can hook you up

while you wont like a mogul ski out of the bumps, it will work better in

good luck
post #9 of 11
Don't listen to the guy who recommended AT bindings unless you want no lateral response and broken bindings. Get something with a high amount of elastic travel like Look Pivots, Look PXs, or Look P18s.
post #10 of 11
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Originally Posted by altis View Post
Bindings: If you're gonna flex those skis a lot then you'll want a binding that can cope well. I'd suggest you look at some AT bindings, such as the Fritschi Freeride, with its own support bar. This will allow the ski to flex without changing the grip on your boot. If you can find a pair, the discontinued Fritschi Rave should be ideal.

This is Jer speaking youre kidding right? Thats almost as funny as "The Exorcist".

Me -8
Epic -0
post #11 of 11
FWIW, Whiteroom sounds about right on the money. Mogul skis are essentially old-school straight skis. Modern sidecut = wider tips and tails than you want in moguls.

Boots: Agree with everyone on going for soft/progressive flex. Full-on mogul skiing is all about compression and extension while maintaining neutral balance. You need to flex your ankles to do that.

Bindings: I have no idea on specific models. Flat, unlifted sounds right to me. AT does not.

I thought "The Exorcist" was pretty scary, myself.
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