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post #31 of 43
Jer, what house plants are you angry with today?
post #32 of 43
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Originally Posted by PhilT View Post
Squads do suck in powder.
Don't say that out loud mine don't know this. It would suck if they believed this. How is it possible ski this fat cannot do well in powder? Anyway , they are not for everybody but some of those Atomics sure look like a great ski for the masses. The Snoops would look good in my quiver.
post #33 of 43
I'll agree that the Squad isn't designed to excel in pow. Its a big mountain ski, with means ice, crust, general gnar just as often as pow. In order to accomplish this, its much stiffer than a traditional powder ski, which means the tips wont plane to the surface as readily. What makes it not so great in the deep stuff though is what makes it absolutely unflappable at mach looney speeds in variable conditions.
post #34 of 43
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Originally Posted by Takecontrol618 View Post
I'll agree that the Squad isn't designed to excel in pow. Its a big mountain ski, with means ice, crust, general gnar just as often as pow.

This is Jer speaking you are correct. Not all fat skis are powder skis. The blue pigs who think so need to get a clew. If a ski is too stiff you can always shoot it ten times with a 9mm semi-auto using Super-X ammo.
post #35 of 43
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Originally Posted by Jer View Post
This is Jer speaking you are correct. Not all fat skis are powder skis. The blue pigs who think so need to get a clew. If a ski is too stiff you can always shoot it ten times with a 9mm semi-auto using Super-X ammo.
You're beginning to sound like Twight.
post #36 of 43
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Originally Posted by axebiker View Post
unless you have the disposable income to have a set of skis that mostly...sit.
The original poster was asking about next year's models when folks are blowing out this year's. I think disposable income isn't an issue.

But in case I'm wrong, SierraJim's posts didn't mention that he is currently running a 50% off sale on all (or maybe only almost all) 06/07 gear.
post #37 of 43
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Originally Posted by Jer View Post
This is Jer speaking you are correct. Not all fat skis are powder skis. The blue pigs who think so need to get a clew. If a ski is too stiff you can always shoot it ten times with a 9mm semi-auto using Super-X ammo.
This ski skis the mashed potatoes and less than swell snow better than anything I have tried. In the NW we get alot of wet snow that gets recovered or hardened and needs to be skied . Powder you can ski with anything. A fat ,stiff ski , works fine for the few epic dumps we found this year in my neck of the woods. A specific powder ski would be a lot softer but this is a good tool for where I ski the most especially now
The point of my post is I wouldn't recommend this ski to very many people but it works for my uses.
post #38 of 43
Not to hijack this thread, but this seems to fit in. I am a midwestern skier who picked up some Explosives a couple of years ago and enjoy them when I ski the mountains.

I have not skied them in pure deep powder (see the "it gets cut up real in 2 hours post" but they seemed to work fine in the leftover cut up stuff.

My question, how does that ski fit in the stiffness curve?

I will be thankful for a couple of responses and maybe even some examples of skis that are stiffer or softer.
post #39 of 43
From TGR's Recommended Skis list:
RELATIVE FLEXES:
9 - titan pro / Squad / supa stiff bros (270)
8 - LP / Monster / explosiv / dp #3 / capital stiffs (260)
7 - big daddy / stockli dp (250)
6 - ANT / extra stiff kingswood / stiff bros
5 - mantra / ak swallowtail / dp #2 (240)
4 - gotama / soft bros / reg. kingswood (230)
3 - yellow ak rockets / sugar daddy ?
2 - PR / lawnchair (200 or less)
1 - sanouk/made'n
0 - green ak rockets
post #40 of 43
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Originally Posted by Takecontrol618 View Post
From TGR's Recommended Skis list:
RELATIVE FLEXES:
9 - titan pro / Squad / supa stiff bros (270)
8 - LP / Monster / explosiv / dp #3 / capital stiffs (260)
7 - big daddy / stockli dp (250)
6 - ANT / extra stiff kingswood / stiff bros
5 - mantra / ak swallowtail / dp #2 (240)
4 - gotama / soft bros / reg. kingswood (230)
3 - yellow ak rockets / sugar daddy ?
2 - PR / lawnchair (200 or less)
1 - sanouk/made'n
0 - green ak rockets
To decode: PR = Pocket Rocket; lawnchair = AK Launcher
post #41 of 43

Fat Skis suck

Its not the arrow but the indian!
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Fat skiers are faster!


More emocons just for fun: : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : :
post #42 of 43
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Originally Posted by GarryZ View Post
This ski skis the mashed potatoes and less than swell snow better than anything I have tried. In the NW we get alot of wet snow that gets recovered or hardened and needs to be skied . Powder you can ski with anything. A fat ,stiff ski , works fine for the few epic dumps we found this year in my neck of the woods. A specific powder ski would be a lot softer but this is a good tool for where I ski the most especially now
The point of my post is I wouldn't recommend this ski to very many people but it works for my uses.
I agree, I ski in the NW too and I think the squad is honestly the most well thought out all condition crud busting/gnar shredding ski ever designed. I love mine to death.

Just in the heavy glop around here i find that if the tip dives at all the ski slows down so much that you will basically eat it no matter what. And the tips DO dive, 104 waist or not.
post #43 of 43
Takecontrol and alpinedad:

Thanks. Looks like I should look for a softer ski wide ski to round out my on the snow experience.

From what I am reading it seems like wide and soft is good in the unbroken powder (both heavy and light) and that the wide and stiffer is better as the snow turns to crud. I am guessing that is why I saw a lot of yellow launchers on patrollers in the Tahoe area 4/5 years ago.

Notice I am ignoring the whole super fat ski option. I know there are skiers out there that think of these as the answer to any powder, maybe I will look into these later.
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