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DST and skiing

post #1 of 14
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It occurred to me yesterday after I skied the rock-hard corduroy early in the day that we are skiing an hour earlier than any year before. What is 8:30 now used to be 7:30. The snow softened by 10 or 11 this week, but that would have been 9 or 10 last year, and much closer to opening time.

Perhaps ski resorts should have moved their opening times back an hour when DST hit instead of keeping their times the same. What do you think?
post #2 of 14
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Originally Posted by ssh View Post
It occurred to me yesterday after I skied the rock-hard corduroy early in the day that we are skiing an hour earlier than any year before. What is 8:30 now used to be 7:30. The snow softened by 10 or 11 this week, but that would have been 9 or 10 last year, and much closer to opening time.

Perhaps ski resorts should have moved their opening times back an hour when DST hit instead of keeping their times the same. What do you think?
I think it's fine the way it is, because the upper half (2,500 foot vert.) has great powder up here, and the cooler morning temps keep it fluffy!
post #3 of 14
Resorts should open on the regular time and then add an extra hour of lifts at the end of the day. Best of both worlds.
post #4 of 14
As usual, Mad River Glen does things a little differently.
They are now open 9:30-4:30 weekdays, 9-4:30 weekends.
post #5 of 14
I think we should just change the clocks by only a 1/2 hour next time and be done with all this time change stuff forever.
post #6 of 14
Opening it up early wouldn't give those of us who like the empty mountain in the morning much time to ski alone.
post #7 of 14
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Originally Posted by ssh View Post

Perhaps ski resorts should have moved their opening times back an hour when DST hit instead of keeping their times the same. What do you think?
I think they should open an hour EARLIER, but close an hour later.

We pay for a DAY pass, but only ski for a very small part of that day as it is . 4:30 comes along and it's, "You need to buy a night ticket" wtf? It's not night time yet! :
post #8 of 14
Spring conditions mean the earlier part of the day is generally the beat skiing. There are exceptions during cold snaps, but as we approach the late season, it has been common practice for ski areas to shut down the lifts at 2:00 PM due to the intensity of the sun and high temperatures. At least that was the case when our ski season extended beyond April towards Memorial day. I really think its a regional thing. Colorado is probably more affected by colder freezes at this time of year. We had several days during the Gathering that the snow didn't re-freeze overnight.
post #9 of 14
As I read the posts already I’m thinking perhaps another way to consider ssh’s clock and DST, at least from a Colorado front range skier point of view dealing with I-70 traffic, would be to stagger in a sense, skier types and their particular interests matching “time of day” conditions. Could this also help mitigate the growing peak traffic issues on I-70?

Might it be possible to change the paradigm on how skiers are currently lift served thus serving their interests? Current gig; you rush out of the house, hit the Floyd hill or Tunnel traffic jam, get to the parking lot, put on your boots, the bell sounds, the lift turns and the stampede begins, etc. (Ya gotta get the value out of that lift ticket by golly…). And forget the ½ day ticket gig unless you are lucky enough to find a parking spot.

Rather, is promoting the various kinds of snow conditions and temperature (etc.) a skier could opt for; say a morning lift service (real early risers), a segment for a lunch time skier and/or perhaps even a late afternoon sun and fun and be seen skier, the way to go? “Follow the sun” would be the concept that would perhaps segment skier interest. Of course, for some, if you want it all, you buy it all.

In the abstract I would think as long as a skier finds real value if not altogether an improved experience, a segment or equivalent method could work. Especially in light of their total ski day experience with a less stressful more timely commute. Maybe then a resort could also offer new and unique experiences once you take off the skis to further fill out your day (profile marketing).

Hopefully the resorts would find economic incentive in a balance of smoothing volume, improving customer satisfaction as well as doing their part to improve traffic with that cost of marketing, expanding lift service times and a system of verifying segmented skier lift ticket.

Dunno…not very well thought out I suppose…but I’m sure tired of the hours and hours getting home often on I-70 let alone leaving the mountain at 2:30 PM to do so…man that puts a damper on a great ski day.
post #10 of 14
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Originally Posted by Beric in Whistler View Post
I think it's fine the way it is, because the upper half (2,500 foot vert.) has great powder up here, and the cooler morning temps keep it fluffy!
doesn't the afternoon sun come sooner or later and wreck it anyway, no matter what number the little electric devices say?
post #11 of 14
Back and forth from DST basically sucks and kills me twice a year for a couple weeks.

One advantage so far this year is that you can sleep in a little and time the 11 am corn easier, plus there is still plenty of daylight for afternoon brews.

FYI, Wolf Creek is running until 5pm.

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Originally Posted by DonDenver View Post
I’m sure tired of the hours and hours getting home often on I-70 let alone leaving the mountain at [/font]2:30 PM[font=Verdana] to do so…man that puts a damper on a great ski day.
Hmmmm.....wonder why I left the front range in '85. : Nothing like tooling home after a nice day where few others go.....
post #12 of 14
Last Saturday, Okemo kept their main lifts running until 5. Unfortunately, it was a greyish, overcast day with occasional snow showers. It would have been a lot better a day earlier, when it was bluebird!
post #13 of 14
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doesn't the afternoon sun come sooner or later and wreck it anyway, no matter what number the little electric devices say?
It's still mid-winter temps up there right now, with even colder air expected by the weekend. You have to hike a little farther, or go heliskiing to find the untracked stuff.
Check this photo for proof... I uploaded it this aft....
http://www.coastrangeheliskiing.com/PhotoOfDay.html
post #14 of 14
Hunter Mountain now closes at 5pm, one hour later than normal, because of the time change.
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