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post #31 of 43
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but I just think it's funny how every single thread about fat skis turns into a discussion about thier weaknesses. To tell the truth, I don't even click on threads about carving skis so maybe the same thing happens there.
But many of them are. At least from your prospective.

You may find that boring, too.

The simple fact being, we know fat ski are good for powders. End of discussion. So there's no need for the gear forum. We can all turn in, except those who wishes to sing non-stop the praises of fattys.

So are you surprised that the question left is how it does on groomer if one is stuck with skiing them on a lot of groomers?

Go click on some discussions on narrow waist shapely carver ski. You'll find a lot of question about whether they can handle powder! More over, you'll even find the answers quite universally "not very good", 'cause there are quite fewer of them in those threads to insist they ski as well in all conditions as do fat advocates insisting "fat is just as good on groomers".
post #32 of 43
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Hey - if yer gonna be dumb, ya gotta be tough.
And you gotta have Aflac...........Cue the duck!


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Go click on some discussions on narrow waist shapely carver ski. You'll find a lot of question about whether they can handle powder! More over, you'll even find the answers quite universally "not very good", 'cause there are quite fewer of them in those threads to insist they ski as well in all conditions as do fat advocates insisting "fat is just as good on groomers".
Yup! Seen em, read em, know it to be true.


I guess the purpose of this thread in my mind was not to discuss whether or not fat is better, but..........how much has your way of thinking changed in the past coupla years?

The evolution of the super fats and the performance reviews of skis well over 100 at the waist have really changed where the bar sets when it comes to ski width classifications. Thus, what I used to think of as a midfat is now fairly skinny. I used to think of the Karma as a ski that I'd take west for powder at 86 in the waist, and now its a ski I ski on regularly and I'm thinking I'll rent a fat ski when I'm west:
Yea right, me rent?.....................I'll buy one! Who do I think I'm kidding?
post #33 of 43
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Originally Posted by at_nyc View Post
Go click on some discussions on narrow waist shapely carver ski. You'll find a lot of question about whether they can handle powder! More over, you'll even find the answers quite universally "not very good", 'cause there are quite fewer of them in those threads to insist they ski as well in all conditions as do fat advocates insisting "fat is just as good on groomers".
Well then, I guess I'll just have to assume that there are a lot of people here who are morons (or at the very least incredibly slow).

I mean, why would you call it a "powder ski" if it was great at carving hard snow? Why would you call it a "carving ski" if it was great for deep powder? Duh?? Really - it's amazing that many of the people here manage to make it throught the trials and tribulations of every day exsistence.:
post #34 of 43
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I mean, why would you call it a "powder ski" if it was great at carving hard snow? Why would you call it a "carving ski" if it was great for deep powder? Duh??
I guess you haven't looked at any manufacturer's catologues lately?
post #35 of 43
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I guess you haven't looked at any manufacturer's catologues lately?
No I haven't. Are they trying to tell people that a Pontoon works great in a slalom course? Is that what the human race has sunk to?
post #36 of 43
Jer,

You seem to be very angry about this fat ski business. Why do you care so much? Surely you don't expect any respectable Eastern skier who spends 90% of his/her time on hardpack to gush about fat skis. Right?
post #37 of 43
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Jer,

You seem to be very angry about this fat ski business.
I'm not angry about this fat ski business. I'm angry about this moron business. I don't expect people to gush about fat skis nor do I expect everyone to agree with me. I do however expect people to exhibit an intelligence level superior to that of a houseplant.
post #38 of 43
Ummm why do you want to skim on top of the snow with fat skis? Narrow stiff skis cut down into the base for max grip and edgeing.
post #39 of 43
I say let folks ski on whatever width they want. So what if a lot of folks think that skiing on a wider ski makes them, well, er, more core, more manly/womanly, more bad-ass in general. While wandering through the streets of Vail this past week, I saw a lot of skiers toting skis that were pure overkill for the conditions. They were kitted out for the Chugach Range but were taking on a fearsome 6" - 7" of fresh on top of frozen spring stuff in the back bowls. Probably a bit like the Hummer that they drove on dry pavement up I70. Doesn't matter. They were loving their gear and feeling great strutting down Bridge Street with it slung over their shoulder. Kudos for the the ski industry guys for making the consumers feel the itch for width.

Bottom line, I saw a lot of happy skiers in Colorado last week skiing on the latest gear and feeling good about it. So, find a ski you like and ski it. Don't judge the next guy because he's on a wider/narrower, shorter/longer ski than you. Ski fast, ski slow, ski ice, ski bumps, ski powder, ski groomers, ski race courses, ski pipes and parks, ski crud, ski corn, ski East/West/Alaska/Canada/Europe, South America, make big turns, make quick turns, jump, huck, grind, fakey.....your brains out. Just be very happy that you're lucky enough to be out there sliding down a hill.
post #40 of 43
"I say let people ski on whatever width they want...toting skis that were pure overkill...Probably a bit like the Hummer they drove on dry pavement..."

Yeah, you're open minded and non-judgemental.
post #41 of 43
Very perceptive!
post #42 of 43
I do agree with the message...GO HAVE SOME FUN. That is ALL that skiing should be about.
post #43 of 43
btw my houseplants are very intelligent. They can even follow the sunlight across the sky
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