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Ski for Level 7 Eastern skier

post #1 of 20
Thread Starter 
Hi everyone,

I'm new here, but hope you can help me with recommendations. First, background. I'm a level 7 skier, 6' 155 lbs. Currently skiing on Rossignol Bandits (not the B1, B2, B3) size 170 (measures 107, 71, 97). I am outskiing this Rossignol and am unhappy with lack of ski stability at speed, vibrating/bouncing and doesn't stay connected to the snow). It is not a good short turn radius ski, and it's not particulary good at holding an edge when carving.

Now, I am NOT a good bump skier but working at improving and want more shape to reduce the turn radius. Also looking for more stability at speed.

I tried a friend's Head Supershape size 170 today. He's 200 pounds versus my 155. Wow, what a difference! They constantly want to turn, and have an incredible ability to hold an edge regardless of the ice. Very nice, and I would go down to perhaps a 160 or 165 for my weight. They did feel a bit squirelly thought at speed. Just want to be on edge at all times.

Can you help me with some other recommendations? I'm hoping to go shopping this week and would really like your input versus just getting a sales talk at the shops.

Thanks! - VTFogg
post #2 of 20
Also consider a Fischer RX8 in a 165cm.

Here is a ton of info: http://forums.epicski.com/showthread.php?t=48898

BTW, concering the SS, consider a 165cm in that ski too.

Cheers,

Michael
post #3 of 20
Take a look at this thread, it helped me out in picking a ski:
http://forums.epicski.com/showthread.php?t=48898

In general, I think you should be looking at:
Fischer RX-8
Volkl Allstar
Head Supershape

All of them are good eastern skis. Once you narrow it down we can help with specific length, but I think for your height and weight, 160-170 depending on how fast you ski sounds right.
post #4 of 20
I third the RX8, you could go to 170 as well.
post #5 of 20
Thread Starter 
Thanks for referring me to that post. The Fischer RX8 sounds just right for me. I'm headed to the shop on Tuesday!
post #6 of 20
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Originally Posted by barrettscv View Post
Also consider a Fischer RX8 in a 165cm.

Here is a ton of info: http://forums.epicski.com/showthread.php?t=48898

BTW, concering the SS, consider a 165cm in that ski too.

Cheers,

Michael
What he said.
post #7 of 20
Thread Starter 
I looked everywhere around here to demo a set of Fischer RX8, but none are available. I'm concerned that these skis may be too much (stiff) and want to be constantly skied aggressively. Don't get me wrong - I like to SKI, but there are times when we all want to relax a bit. I'm 43 now afterall. Comments?

Also, how about K2 Comanche 5com. Ski Press magazine gave them a good rating for versatility. Not sure about the 72mm middle width.

Thanks
post #8 of 20
You can relax on the RX8s they work at slow speeds as well.
Salomon Equipe SCs are even more forgiving and more flexible.
Rossi oversize is also a nice choice.

For more candidates, the member reviews at realskiers.com is well worth the 20 bucks.
post #9 of 20
RX-8 do pretty well in a relaxed mode at slow speeds. I get a lot of time to explore skis in this situation when skiing with family, and the RX-8 does fine. They won't give back as much energy as you get at high speeds, but that's not surprising.

The only time the RX-8 require attention is when the snow surface gets sloppy. With such a deep sidecut, they can be hooky. But this is a reality with almost every short radius carver ski. It's one of the tradeoffs.

If you are just skiing slow/relaxed on groomed snow, the RX-8 will be fine.
post #10 of 20
i'd suggest rx8's as well - good ski and i'd rate them above the heads which i think do get squirrley at speed - definately in the 170cms
post #11 of 20
I think I'd look at something more like the Head Supershape Speed or the XRC 1200 or 1400. A little less shape a little more versatile.
post #12 of 20
At your weight and ability, an RX8 in 160 or 165 is perfect; it'll reward you every time you do it right and not crucify you for a mistake. In terms of stability, halfway between your B Rossis and say a Nordica or Head. Only drawback is that they're not optimal in bumps or stiff crud.

Not so sure about Head SS's. They're smoother than RX8, but less flexible in terms of technique, beefier, and more of a pure carver. And totally disagree with Epic about the 1200's or SS Speeds; these are detuned, shapier GS skis that demand strong technique and have two speeds - fast and faster.

Other skis that would fill your self description and needs, at good prices right now: Elan Speedwave 12, Volkl S5.

Read Dawgcatching's reviews for a good overview of all the skis you're thinking about, as well as the Elan. Lots of threads here on the S5.
post #13 of 20
Thread Starter 
Ok, one last question concerning the Fischer line. RX8 versus RX6. RX6 is available for $300 versus $460 for the RX8. I note the mid section of the RX6 is 68 vs 66 for the RX8. Is that going to translate to more versatility?

My home mountain is Pico here in Vermont. Will the RX6 disappoint skiing upper KA and Pike, or will the increase versatility be a benefit when skiing the summit glades or the bumps of Sidewinder?
post #14 of 20
I haven't tried the RX6, but have tried the RX8 in a 170 cm. If you divide the extra 160 bucks by the number of days you will ski them, it's not a large amount. My understanding (not experience) is that the RX6 is a slightly lower performing ski, more suitable for an intermediate, and the RX8 the better choice for an expert. The RX8 should allow you to ski faster before feeling unsafe, and turn a little harder. The RX6 also has a slightly longer turn radius and is a little more forgiving. If you have already cut your teeth on a Bandit, then you most likely want to move up to the 8.
post #15 of 20
For more versatility than the RX-8, I would look at the RX-9. The RX-6 is a fine ski, but it's an intermediate ski, whereas the 8 and 9 are expert skis. As a level 7, you're either past the RX-6 already or would be soon. Focus on the 8 or 9.

BTW, I wouldn't consider any of these skis as a strong glade/bump ski, but the RX-9 would be better than the RX-8 in this regard. I consider all of the RX skis to be focused towards groomed terrain, especially the RX-8.
post #16 of 20
See if you can demo a Rossi Z9. I was a high step 7 last year, and with the help of these skis, I was bumped uo to step 8 on my first lesson of this season. Everyone I know says my skiing is much improved over last year.

I'm not qualified to advise, but I do think you should give them a try. A lot of the instructors in my club are switching to the Z9's.
post #17 of 20
I'm a similar age and level Eastern skier and just ordered a pair of RX8s in 170cm from Dawgcatching. Can't wait to get on them next season. I'm also 6', but 185 lbs., so you might be better in the 165 than the 170.

Dawg has some great prices right now and is fantastic to deal with, I highly recommend getting your skis from him!

Mike
post #18 of 20
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Originally Posted by skier219 View Post
For more versatility than the RX-8, I would look at the RX-9. The RX-6 is a fine ski, but it's an intermediate ski, whereas the 8 and 9 are expert skis. As a level 7, you're either past the RX-6 already or would be soon. Focus on the 8 or 9.

BTW, I wouldn't consider any of these skis as a strong glade/bump ski, but the RX-9 would be better than the RX-8 in this regard. I consider all of the RX skis to be focused towards groomed terrain, especially the RX-8.
I was also considering the RX-6 but the majority opinion made me reconsider. From what I've read it appears to me Fischer has made the RX 2,4 & 6 for beginners and intermediates, then they skipped the advanced lvl and made the 8 and 9 for experts, am I mistaken ? Is the RX-8 tame enough for developing advanced skiers ?
post #19 of 20
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Originally Posted by SnowSnake View Post
See if you can demo a Rossi Z9. I was a high step 7 last year, and with the help of these skis, I was bumped uo to step 8 on my first lesson of this season. Everyone I know says my skiing is much improved over last year.

I'm not qualified to advise, but I do think you should give them a try. A lot of the instructors in my club are switching to the Z9's.
I've heard the '08 Z11 is even better.
post #20 of 20
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Originally Posted by redrun View Post
I was also considering the RX-6 but the majority opinion made me reconsider. From what I've read it appears to me Fischer has made the RX 2,4 & 6 for beginners and intermediates, then they skipped the advanced lvl and made the 8 and 9 for experts, am I mistaken ? Is the RX-8 tame enough for developing advanced skiers ?
I think the RX-8 would be OK for anyone who is carving turns well and has the basics in place. It rewards good skiing, but is reasonably forgiving and tolerant of less than perfect technique. If you are above intermediate, the RX-8 would be fine.
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