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My skis are bleeding!

post #1 of 16
3/24/07 at 10:23am
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Crossmax pilot 10's, the pods that the torsion bars go into are leaking a black tar like substance (damping material?) Would it be safe to say that these are now shot. Got about 4 or 5 seasons on them 30 days per. Thinking of going with K2 Apache Stryker's. Spend about 10 days out west, the rest here in the east. Trying to improve in the moguls and ski pretty much everything. Would like some good ice handeling ability as well. Opinions.
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post #2 of 16
3/24/07 at 10:27am
I'm not a good source for recommendations, but am curious WHERE the tar is bleeding from? Just so I can keep any eye on my own crossmax pilots...... :

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Crossmax pilot 10's, the pods that the torsion bars go into are leaking a black tar like substance (damping material?) Would it be safe to say that these are now shot. Got about 4 or 5 seasons on them 30 days per. Thinking of going with K2 Apache Stryker's. Spend about 10 days out west, the rest here in the east. Trying to improve in the moguls and ski pretty much everything. Would like some good ice handeling ability as well. Opinions.
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post #3 of 16
3/24/07 at 10:50am
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Originally Posted by DKN View Post
I'm not a good source for recommendations, but am curious WHERE the tar is bleeding from? Just so I can keep any eye on my own crossmax pilots...... :
The little pods where the torsion bars are attached. the end towards the bindings. NO ONE has ever seen this happen. I guess I just beat the hell out of them. 6'2" 235 will do that to a soft ski.
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post #4 of 16
3/24/07 at 10:57am
Could you send in a picture? I've never seen a ski bleed.
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post #5 of 16
3/24/07 at 11:08am
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The little pods where the torsion bars are attached. the end towards the bindings. NO ONE has ever seen this happen. I guess I just beat the hell out of them. 6'2" 235 will do that to a soft ski.
Ouch... that black stuff is your skis crying from the beating you lay on them

Also, you have a lot of days on them (about 5 times more than what I put on a pair of skis before I get rid of them). Combined with your weight, they're way past the point where they should be 'cooked'.
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post #6 of 16
3/24/07 at 11:09am
I've seen it. i've also seen the arms sheer off, I seriously doubt a three inch long plastic tube glued to the top of a ski does ANYTHING, i wouldn't worry. I would worry about a 235lbs skier spending 5 years on a pair of Crossmax.
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post #7 of 16
3/24/07 at 11:21am

Mine too!

Exactly as described! Mine are the yellow Salomon Xcreams with the prolinks that form a "Y" not the older ones that are parallel. A friend saw mine and said his are doing the same thing. Not sure which Salomons his are though. Hope it's not the magic leaking out! I was thinking about cleaning it off (again) and applying some 100% silicone to them. I wondered if maybe I got them too hot waxing them but I really doubt it.

Hey Salomon... Just what is that gunk in there for anyway?:
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post #8 of 16
3/24/07 at 11:32am
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Originally Posted by 4cznskier View Post
Hope it's not the magic leaking out!
Or... this could be the sign of a miracle... like the statues of Mary that spontaneouly shed tears of blood. Have you guys noticed crowds of faithful Salomon skiers making pilgrimages to your houses??


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post #9 of 16
3/24/07 at 11:35am
"Hey Salomon...Just what is that gunk in there for anyway?"

It's like the pop up thermometer in a turkey, when you see goo the skis are done.
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post #10 of 16
3/24/07 at 11:35am
I've seen this problem posted here before.

Manufacturers should stick to internal dampening imho. My old Kästle SGs are very well-damped skis, and they don't have anything stuck on the outside of them. My Fischer WC SCs do just fine with "frequency tuning" at some pretty insane speeds too.

I think Dynastar started it all with their "chicken hearts". I guess it sells skis
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post #11 of 16
3/24/07 at 11:50am
We call external 'stuff' Money Bumps.
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post #12 of 16
3/24/07 at 1:28pm
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Originally Posted by Whiteroom View Post
I've seen it. i've also seen the arms sheer off, I seriously doubt a three inch long plastic tube glued to the top of a ski does ANYTHING, i wouldn't worry. I would worry about a 235lbs skier spending 5 years on a pair of Crossmax.
They worked so I never got rid of them. Prolly should have been trying out some different ones along the way though. Going to pick up the Apache's tommorow for $450.00. Rent fatties when out west.
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post #13 of 16
3/24/07 at 1:59pm
Happened to a pair of my Salomon race skis a while back. Keep them stored vertically long enough in a warm room and they'll bleed whether you ski them or not.
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post #14 of 16
3/24/07 at 2:51pm
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Or... this could be the sign of a miracle... like the statues of Mary that spontaneouly shed tears of blood. Have you guys noticed crowds of faithful Salomon skiers making pilgrimages to your houses??


Very funny.
Maybe it's because of shortened winters. It's a sign we're paying for doing nothing about global warming.
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post #15 of 16
3/24/07 at 3:07pm
Black Oil !

(Oh, and yes, I've skied crossmaxes without the bars on one of the skis. Never noticed a difference...)
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post #16 of 16
3/24/07 at 7:34pm
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Originally Posted by philippeR View Post
Black Oil !

(Oh, and yes, I've skied crossmaxes without the bars on one of the skis. Never noticed a difference...)
Great..so now my skis have been invaded by aliens,damn.
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