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Initial Impression: Elan 888

post #1 of 25
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Details of the day and the skier:

Conditions: Killington, 24” of the freshest lightest snow I have ever skied.

My specs: 5’10”195 lb. Skiing 30 years. Gear junkie by trade.

My own equipment: (as of 2/26/07 6:15 PM EST, Subject to change.)
Boots:
Dalbello Krypton Pro ID

Skis/Bindings:
Blizzard Titan 9 181cm, Salomon S900 Alium
K2 Seth 179cm, Salomon S912
Volant PowerKarve 173, Marker 8.1

SKI TESTED:08 Elan 888 176 (128/88/108 21.1 TR) w/ Elan Demo bindings

Skiing style/technique: I am heavy on my skis. I tend to muscle a ski. I ski with a compact low stance.

Preference in skis: I like a ski that will hold and carve through a turn. I also like a ski that can handle moguls.

REVIEW:I will start by saying that I will be reserving full judgment of this ski until I can ski it on some hard snow and “typical” eastern conditions.

Graphics: This is one of the prettier skis that I have seen for the 08 model year, simple, elegant and traditional. I did find a downfall, I lost a ski in 2’ of snow and since there is NOTHING bright on the ski, it took me 15 minutes to find said ski.

weight & feel This ski is much lighter than you would expect for a ski with an Alu top skin. The ski is also soft in flex, much different than my Titans.

On Snow Feel: Even in a 176, this ski feels short, even though it is only 3 cm shorter than my Seths (5 shorter than my Titans), it feels much shorter, I am not sure I mean that in a bad way, but it is a very nimble ski, almost tossable compared to my other skis. It is a very playful ski.

overall: This is where the jury is out. I want to ski these on harder snow. Also for as “short” as these feel, I might want to try the 184. I am not sure this will be the ski for me, I am not saying it will not, but I am not sure. I think it might be a ski for a lighter skier. I want to try the Magfires more now, particularly the 14.

Side: My son skied these at MRG, he was skiing the 179 Seths but was having trouble getting them around (he is 5’9” 170), I could see the Seths being a bit much for him, but it was the lesser of two evils, it was them or his beat M10’s. Once he got on them, his skiing jumped a notch, he was much smoother cruising and in the bumps. He skied a 167 K2 Recon on Steamboat and found these to have much more life and more fun to ski.
post #2 of 25
Glad to read this review. This is a ski I'm interested in trying for the 07-08 season. I have considered the Free Spice(WS version of the 888) but have found my tendency to muscle a ski leads me to the unisex skis. Besides the graphics on the Free Spice are somewhat questionable
Any chance of a demo on these at BumpPhest
post #3 of 25
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Originally Posted by trekchick View Post
Any chance of a demo on these at BumpPhest
I will have these at Bumpfest if anyone wants to demo them. With a nice soft flex they will be real nice in the bumps.
post #4 of 25
How soft is 'soft'?

Softer than a PR?
Softer than a 999?
Softer than an optical base Chubb?
Softer than a Sugar Daddy?
Softer than a Blizzard XXL?
post #5 of 25
Thread Starter 
No
No
Yes
Yes
YES

Very balanced flex too.
post #6 of 25
Sounds like a ski I should be considering this a replacement for my worn out Pocket Rockets. Thanks for the review.
post #7 of 25
Adding to review.
I put in 1.5 days on hard snow and spring corn at squaw this week on the 888 (thanks to Dawg).
They are a great versatile ski. I skied it in the 177, while my primary ski this year in hard/soft/ everything/ has been a 170 Nordica Jet Fuel.

I found the 88 to workable in all conditions, it held well (for someone who hates hard snow anyway) for a ski thats 90 under foot (dawgs official measuring was 130-89.5- ),

I liked the flex and unlike Phil, didn't find it to be too soft. of course he's used to the titan, which is just the opposite of soft... the flex was well balanced and worked well with the shape and width. Of course, I'm about 165lbs and more of a finesse skier (power, what power

so, not a full reveiw, but an add on to phils.

overall, a great ski and worth looking at (and good looking to)

I was thinking of buying it, but i'm not there yet. the jet fuel is still my favorite everything ski.

cheers
holiday
post #8 of 25
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Originally Posted by Holiday View Post
Adding to review.
I liked the flex and unlike Phil, didn't find it to be too soft.
cheers
holiday
I don't recall saying that they were too soft, but they are much softer than my Titans

Quote:
Originally Posted by Philpug View Post
Side: My son skied these at MRG, he was skiing the 179 Seths but was having trouble getting them around (he is 5’9” 170), I could see the Seths being a bit much for him, but it was the lesser of two evils, it was them or his beat M10’s. Once he got on them, his skiing jumped a notch, he was much smoother cruising and in the bumps. He skied a 167 K2 Recon on Steamboat and found these to have much more life and more fun to ski.
In putting the 888 next to my 179 Seths, the 888 actually has a longer running surface but it is a much more nimble ski. My son found the 888 to be a much better ski for him than the Titans or Seths.

I will take them out again this weekend to complete the review.
post #9 of 25
Compared to Dynastar 8800?
post #10 of 25
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Originally Posted by BigE View Post
Compared to Dynastar 8800?
Never skied an 8800, so I really have no point of reference.
post #11 of 25
Shame, it supposedly defines the class.
post #12 of 25
Thread Starter 
Review: Part 2

I skied these up at Blue today..I know..I know..but there were other influencing factors. As I mentioned, the 888 skied "short", well since I have demo bindings on these, I adjusted then 2cm back of center and it made a difference. I felt more balanced on the ski and not over the tip as much as I did before. I am told that the 999 is set up this way.

For a ski this size, it is very playful tossible, a much different ski than the Titan Nine. Where the Titan requires much more input, the 888 is much more laid back.
post #13 of 25
Is 176 as short as they make it?
How does it compare to the 777?
post #14 of 25
Also interested in comparson if possible to 777. PhilP, I was at Killington last Friday in about 12" of the lightest powder I've ever experienced in the east. Mostly skied my XL's, which were perfect as it (quickly) got tracked out. Who knew such a terrible winter would yield such a great spring!
post #15 of 25
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If my son doesn't come this weekend, I will ski the 888's this weekend, if not I will ski the Seths
post #16 of 25
Quote:
Originally Posted by Philpug View Post
Review: Part 2

I skied these up at Blue today..I know..I know..but there were other influencing factors. As I mentioned, the 888 skied "short", well since I have demo bindings on these, I adjusted then 2cm back of center and it made a difference. I felt more balanced on the ski and not over the tip as much as I did before. I am told that the 999 is set up this way.
Phil,
Can you expand on this comment wrt the 999s. I have a pair of 999s and since I only take them out on powder days I haven't had much chance to experiment with binding placement (they have demos w/moveable toes as well).

thanks,
Steve
post #17 of 25
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Originally Posted by stevesmith7 View Post
Phil,
Can you expand on this comment wrt the 999s. I have a pair of 999s and since I only take them out on powder days I haven't had much chance to experiment with binding placement (they have demos w/moveable toes as well).

thanks,
Steve
Steve do you have the 07 or 08 999's? The 08 is a new ski.
post #18 of 25
I've got the older wood top model.

Steve
post #19 of 25
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Originally Posted by stevesmith7 View Post
I've got the older wood top model.

Steve
Older twin tip. The new 999 is not a twin like those.
post #20 of 25
Great ski off piste! Playful and fast. Mostly in cut up crud, but am anxious to make first tracks and see how they float. 5'8" 167 lb level 8 skier with loads of experiences. Quick to edge, and holds steadfast (new intuition liners, and rejuvenated orthodic) We beefed up the arch so the edging is much more powerful. I ski these in 177 cm.
post #21 of 25
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Originally Posted by mogul-dude View Post
Great ski off piste! Playful and fast. Mostly in cut up crud, but am anxious to make first tracks and see how they float. 5'8" 167 lb level 8 skier with loads of experiences. Quick to edge, and holds steadfast (new intuition liners, and rejuvenated orthodic) We beefed up the arch so the edging is much more powerful. I ski these in 177 cm.
My son, who is your size is skiing the same ski and loving it.
post #22 of 25

777 vs 888 vs 8800

I have skied all three. I skied the 8800 at Taos several years ago and the 777 (176) at Aspen Highlands last year and just loved it. At the end of last year I bought the 777 in a 184 and was disappointed because it did not ski like the 176, for me. I traded the 184 in on the 888 in a 176 and immediately was surprised at how short it appeared. It certainly is a nice ski but i don't think it has the snap or energy of the 777. It's basically the same construction as the 777 but if you notice there is some kind of raised metal in front of the boot on the 777 helping give it a stiffer flex. Like dogcatching said; the 888 seams lighter and more flickable. I have not had the 888 in powder yet but I bet it will perform a bit better than the 777. If you want something that has a little more pop on groomers the 777 rails, yet still performed well for me in steep trees and powder at Aspen Higlands. I think the 8800 is more like the 888 and is a real performer as well. I don't think the 8800 had the vertical side wall going the length of the ski making me think it has a softer tip. I think the Elan's have a little more energy than the Dynastar but it has been awhile since I road that thing. I recommended the 8800 to a friend and he loves them.

I feel like I should have went with the 184 in the 888 because it seam so short but I just love the way it comes around in the trees and bark busting it what I bought it for. Bottom line DEMO BEFORE YOU BUY.

Pick up a 888 and some front side carver and your set at fun hog farm:
post #23 of 25
Quote:
Originally Posted by jbuhl View Post
I feel like I should have went with the 184 in the 888 because it seam so short but I just love the way it comes around in the trees and bark busting it what I bought it for.
jbuhl, how big are you? I'm about 5'10" and 195 lbs and am thinking of the 888 as my soft snow ski to complement my PowerKarves. Will the 176 seem too short?
post #24 of 25

888

I am 5' 11" and about 190. It 176 seams short on the groomers, but perfect in tight trees. If you want to float high in wide open space then go longer. If you go 176 maybe mount a hair back from center? I am a bad person to ask because I can't decide if I am a 176 or 184 guy . I love tight trees though so I am satisfied with the 176 for now.
post #25 of 25
Here is a quick update on the 888, 177cm:

I skied this most of the past 5 days at ESA. Basically, I skied everything from 14" of new, to soft bumps, to hardpack groomers, to soft crud. This ski handled it all, and very well. It felt like a big GS, but not as heavy as alot of GS-feeling skis, as it has a light swing-weight, and therefore changes direction very easily. At speed, this ski is unshakable, and did OK in bumps, provided I wasn't screwing up my pole plants again. On hardpack, it was smooth, stable, and again, felt like a GS, but not too heavy and damp. A little slow edge-to-edge and a bit less carvy than the iM88, due to the increased 21m radius. It wasn't laterally aggressive, and could be feathered a bit than other skis. In the deeper snow, this ski ripped at speed and was confidence-inspiring, while remaining easy to ski and not too demanding. It has a pretty stiff tail, so don't get back-seated. But, if you are on top of the ski, it is very rewarding and produces a very stable platform. Overall, I was really happy, and would gladly choose it as my ski for 6 to 18 inches of new. Great skis!
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