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06/07 Stockli Stormrider XL vs 07/08 Volkl Tigershark 10?

post #1 of 18
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So, I went in to demo a ski, that the local sporting goods store did not have, and the guy I talked to races, or used to race, or something like that. He put a lot of stock in the Stockli Stormrider XL, but I haven't gotten a chance to demo it yet... (They dont have them to demo there, actually, and I already demoed the tigershark and liked it alot). So, the Stockli is cheaper than the tigershark (w/o powerswitch is the one I'd get), but its supposedly a better ski. I'm afraid this might be too much ski for me, is there any way to tell? I'm an aggressive skier, and I like to carve alot, I really, really liked the Volkl ski, but the guy telling me about the skis owns a pair of the Stockli's and likes them better. How do you guys think these compare? I read on the poor-grammar internet that "They are not a ski to muck around, on go slow and they handle badley but there not desinged for learners!" Is this true? (There is one run at the local mountain with a long flattish part at the end, which I end up going on more than I would like to, because all of my friends are worse skiers than I am. :P)

Thanks for the help guys
post #2 of 18
I haven't skied the tigershark, so can't comment directly on it, except to say that volkl would be one of the first skis in my list to demo...

The Stoeckli Stormrider XL however, i demoed 2 years ago on as australian days go... a powder day... Snowing all day, probly 20cm over the course of the day... Nice soft tip to aid in float, but solid as a rock underfoot. They are a ski that reward good technique, however if you are messing around they can throw you off...

They love speed, and hold an amazing edge! It wont matter what slopes you are on, if you can ski well, you will love them
post #3 of 18
Any true performance ski will bite. Lot's of guys have the XL's and no complaints. Even older guys like me .. and if you have good technique you wont be sorry.

Just don't buy them "long".
post #4 of 18
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What do you mean, buy "long"?

Also: My concern is that I hear that they're great powder skis. There's almost never any powder whatsoever up at the local mountain. I like to carve on the steep ones, groomed ones mostly. I keep on hearing how they're good for the woods and powder and stuff, but are they going to perform as well on the groomed stuff?

Thanks again for your opinions guys.
post #5 of 18
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Originally Posted by DJThuht View Post
What do you mean, buy "long"?
but are they going to perform as well on the groomed stuff?
XL's are great on the groomers. I use the XL as my groomer ski.


On the length issue, if you are between sizes get the shorter size. I'm 225lbs and ski the 174 for mostly short turn groomer skiing. If I wanted a more all-mtn ski, the 184 would be much better for me.
post #6 of 18
I also talked to a dealer who loved the Stokli skis especially, in his words: "if you and advanced skier or better". I would go with what you know. You tried Volkl and liked them. I'm a huge Volkl fan, You know they do things right.
As I've become a better skier I realize it's less about equipment and more about the skier and technique. I actually think ski equipment has the greatest impact on intermediates.
post #7 of 18
If you are looking for a groomer ski I'd check out the Laser SC or Ski Cross from Stockli over the XL. It is a really great all-around ski, but they do make better carving skis.
post #8 of 18
For what it's worth, I was a hard core Volkl guy till I switched to Stockli. Granted in the past few years, other companies have switched back to straight sidewall construction which, you couldn't get even if you had race connections (I got tired of begging our Volkl rep).

You are getting a hand made ski with race construction with the Stockli. Some of the Stockli GS had a reputation of being beasts and that was well deserved, since the other GS skis were "user friendly" but lacked the top end ability of the Stockli.
post #9 of 18
Just where will you be using these skis?
post #10 of 18
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I'll be skiing mostly at Sierra Summit (live in the central valley, california), and occasionally in some places at tahoe, like Northstar or Heavenly, maybe Squaw. I can ski all of the runs at Sierra without much trouble. The wooded ones at tahoe give me more trouble, but I dont ski those very much.

I'm 6'/135lbs, and I wasnt planning on going over 174.

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"if you and advanced skier or better"
I'd say I'm an advanced skier, but that's a little subjective... I always tell the binding guys that I'm a type 3, but the qualifications for that are pretty vague. What would you say defines an advanced skier? I'm an aggressive skier, carve alot and harder than anyone I know (but I only know about 5 people who ski anyway :P)

I'm thinking stockli, unelss you guys see anything else that I should be aware of?

Thanks for the help guys.
post #11 of 18
135 a typo? that's tiny for 6 foot...

I'm 220 and have the 164 and find that to be perfect for me!

I would be worried at 135 that you couldn't bend it properly...
post #12 of 18
I'm always amazed at how short people's skis are. I have the Stockli XL in a 194cm. I weigh 220. Very stable and not difficult as some suggest. However would like to try a shorter version just to see the difference. It makes it easy to find when lined up with a bunch of other skis. Just look for the one that's sticking out.
post #13 of 18
194 would also be 20cm taller than i am
post #14 of 18
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Originally Posted by rednut View Post
135 a typo? that's tiny for 6 foot...

I'm 220 and have the 164 and find that to be perfect for me!

I would be worried at 135 that you couldn't bend it properly...
nah, no typo :P i'm 16, and have a ridiculous metabolism...which sucks in the summer when it gets >110oF

Anyway: Are there any other skis that are comparable in firmness? I'm going skiing tomorrow, and I get to demo one pair for the day, so this'd be a good time to see... (no stockli's for demo...)
post #15 of 18
I'm 5'10" 215lb and ski the XL's in 174cm, it ski's long in my opinion! The skis are extremely fast, I live in the midwest and these ski's rock on the hard pack as well as the spring mush we have now. They will make turns of any size and change direction very quickly, rock solid edge hold and very stable at speed. The only negative is that are a little tough to manuver at slower speeds and that they are somewhat unforgiving, stay alert. Not having much powder in the midwest, I can't comment on that. I would think they would be the ultimate groomer ski for the west.
post #16 of 18
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Originally Posted by Buckwild View Post
I'm 5'10" 215lb and ski the XL's in 174cm, it ski's long in my opinion! The skis are extremely fast, I live in the midwest and these ski's rock on the hard pack as well as the spring mush we have now. They will make turns of any size and change direction very quickly, rock solid edge hold and very stable at speed. The only negative is that are a little tough to manuver at slower speeds and that they are somewhat unforgiving, stay alert. Not having much powder in the midwest, I can't comment on that. I would think they would be the ultimate groomer ski for the west.

Yeah, I went ahead and bought those on thursday, took them up saturday. NICE skis. I completely agree with your review of the ski, except I didn't think that they were so long. Definatley tough to maneuver at slower speeds.
post #17 of 18
Congratulations on the new boards, glad you like them! As for skiing long, I felt the 174 had the stability of a much longer ski in a smaller package. I have a couple of 180 plus cm skis that don't have the stability of the XL in a 174cm. Enjoy!
post #18 of 18
5ft 11", 180lbs and I ski the XL in a 174 - on groomers it just rails so easy. Haven't noticed them being hard to turn at slower pace. They are unforgiving in Moguls, do sink a bit in the powder if you're not ripping it(75mm waist) and a little heavy (all that metal in them). But they are without doubt a fantastic ski on the piste and hardpack, if you have a sound technique and strength then they're great off piste too. The faster you ski these then the more rewarding they are. Just wish they made them in a 178 as 184 too long for me.

Cheers
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