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post #1 of 18
Thread Starter 
This isn't about what part of ski country to live. I'm pretty much set here in the Park City area. This is more about the what you would look for in a place to live? What would you want and need to have in your personal space? Since my divorce I have been doing a lot of thinking about what my living space should have. Now that my house has sold( it closes in about 2 weeks)
I find myself giving a lot more thought to all this. First do I want live in Town? being close to the resorts is great. I love being able to walk to skiing.Park City Mountain resort is less then 2 blocks away. It is also nice to be vary close to Main St and all the activities on Main St. Yet living in Town has its share of drewbacks. Parking is a hassel, Living in a townhouse means no yard for my dog. Putting up with people who have had a bit to much in the way of adult beverages gets old real fast. There is an area about 12 miles from Park City that I have been looking into. It was started as a Summer Cabin area. in the past couple of years a few Families have made it thier year around home. They now plow and with wireless internet and phones plus Dish TV,I wouldn't be to out of touch with the rest of the world. Oh and I have been told that there is some pretty good back country sking right in the area. So here I am looking at designing a home and thinking what I need to really make it a home. One thing I know i will need is a Mud room/ ski stroage area and tuning bench. I also need an Art studio with good natural light. So0mwhat would you need and want in your Mountain Home? a hot tub? or maybe a jacuzze bath? Granite counter tops or Formica? a Large Master bedroom and Bath or someing simple? Do you want to be ski in ski out or could you live close by and drive to skiing? do you need to feel a part of a community a part of a nieborhood. Or would you rather be in a remote area. like I said I'm just gathering my thoughts and useing this as a way to get my rusty brain working.

[ February 03, 2004, 10:51 AM: Message edited by: Utah49 ]
post #2 of 18
Originally posted by Utah49:
So0mwhat would you need and want in your Mountain Home? a hoTube?
I'm not sure what a "hoTube" is but it made me laugh anyway.
post #3 of 18
ho-tube is a freudian typo for a Hugh Heffner type of hot tub experience!

moving on, i too have pondered the slopeside vs a few miles away location question. at many ski areas you have to sort of choose between a remote slopeside situation or a more urban location but 30-60minutes away from slopes. given that choice, I guess living in a place like Bend, Santa Fe, Reno, etc. might be more satisfying for 365 days a year over a number of years. however, at a place like park city you can live nearly slopeside and have a semi-urban environment too, so many folks would consider your current situation ideal.
post #4 of 18
First plan ahead.

How old are you?
How long do you plan to live there?
How long do you plan to live?
How will you pay for upkeep and tax's when you retire?

Hot tubs are alot of work.

Think about what you need and what you want.

What do you realy need to get by if for some reason you lose everything.

I'm 49, I'm looking for things that make my life easier so I can spend more time playing with my toy's. It's not realy about the big house. It's about having fun with your toy's. The house is a place to sleep.
post #5 of 18
I just need to jump in on the hot tub angle.

They so are not a lot of work, in fact after setup, they are nearly maintenence free.

You fill the bromine feeder once every 2 weeks or so, throw some shock in after each use and test the water (30 second job) every 2 weeks when filling the bromine. Once every 8-10 months or so, drain and refill and rinse the filter. Put Ozone in the tub and cut all that in half.

Once you have a tub, you will never want to be without one again. Soothing away the skiing days aches in a hot tub while it's snowing outside and sipping your favorite adult beverage of course, is awesome. Don't pass on the outdoor hot tub! Ho tubs are fun too.
post #6 of 18
Because there's going to be so much snow so often a garage is key.
post #7 of 18
Thread Starter 
At 53 I will admit i like some creature comforts. a wood buring fireplace with heat venting element. That might save on useing some propane to heat the place. I have to say that a Outdoor hot tub is nice on a snowy night after a hard day of skiing. I just have to find out what it would cost useing Propane gas to heat the tub. Yeah a Garage is a must since The snow in This area could be a big issue. I guess I should also see what a monster snow blower would cost. Something in the 10 to 12 Hp range might work. I'm looking at some log home plans but not sure I want to build a log home.
post #8 of 18
Here in New Hampshire, the architectural firm I work for does a lot of second homes in lake country and ski country. I am frequently amazed at the size and cost of these things. Its good business for us but kind of incongruous, in my opinion, to have people building 6 bedroom houses with 7 bathrooms, a 3 car garage and every amenity you can imagine in the mountains. When you calculate the degree to which these folks go to armor themselves against the rigors of the place and create an environment that resembles their home in the suburbs you begin to suspect they may not be very comfortable with the mountain environment.

I think what they may frequently be missing, in their eagerness to transform the mountain environment, is the opportunity to experience the very qualities of the place they sought.

I'm not sure how this addresses your question. I sense you're not exactly proposing a monster house but your remarks do suggest some fundamental issues. My own approach would be to seek the maximum degree of integration with the mountain environment or to take advantage of the semi-urban opportunities offered by the former mining town if those amenities are what you prefer.
post #9 of 18
Utah49, I'm not divorced, just separated, the divorce will come in due time (2 years and 5 months from now,3 years after the separation act is approved by the judge) as the law goes here in Italy)
For the moment I'd be very happy to have a place I could call mine, just mine.
Amongst the different options, I'm considering :
a-Build a small house on my little piece of land here at the village, far from the resorts or:
b-Buy a little house/flat up in the mountain, live mo-fri at my parents' and escape to the mountains fri night till mo morning and every other possible moment.
Both options will forcefully involve years long mortgage...
and even then I may have not the money to launch myself into the fray so, I will probably do none of the two and carry on the way I am now a bit longer (maybe forever), but I can dream, can't I?
post #10 of 18
Utah49, don't even mess with propane heat for the tub, go electric. Today's tubs are well insulated and economical to run.
post #11 of 18
Originally posted by Utah49:
... There is an area about 12 miles from Park City that I have been looking into. It was started as a Summer Cabin area...

Here is my take. If you are talking about Pine Meadows, I know a few people that live or have lived there. Some like it, most have left. The winters are tough up there because of the lack of water and plowed roads. Every fall in October, they shut the water line down (the main is not dug below the frost line). Year round residents use tanks, but never have enough water to shower. They mostly use it for dishes. Its a real hassle. As for the roads, even though the main road is plowed, most cabins are a considerable distance from the road and require snowmobile access. I have heard horror stories about medical emergencies that nearly ended in tragedy. If you have school age kids, they will be going to South Summit schools (not in the PC School District). It also takes 30 minutes to get to PC on a good day, so be prepared for a much more isolated experience.

On the plus side, the views are incredible, as is the backcountry skiing/hiking. Prices are alot cheaper. Also, homeowners are increasingly year-round types, and are starting to insist on more ammenities, like year-round water and paved roads (if you like that sort of thing). Its just a matter of time before it becomes a mainstream residential community.

If I were you, I would look into Kamas, Oakley & Peoa as alternatives. They offer lower real estate prices (compared to PC) and have great infrastructures. Commute time to PC is MUCH less, plus you have the Uintas real close by.

Just my 2 cents,

post #12 of 18
Well, I'm 39 now and get to retire in 11 years. This Summer, we're going to look at property in the Ogden Valley area (Huntsville, Eden, etc...). I'm going to look for a lot that's about 1 - 2.5 acres and we'll build about a 2000 sq ft house on it. It will have 3 bedrooms, a 3 car garage, a "mud" room, the outdoor jacuzzi and ????

We were originally going to look in the Steamboat Springs area but feel it's going to be way too expensive for what we want. The Durango area is a possibility as well but lacks what has drawn us to the Ogden area and that is GREAT skiing/riding within 30 minutes. Snowbasin and Powder Mtn are 2 of my favorite mountains anywhere.
post #13 of 18
As a sequel to Powdr's post, is there a Utah state policy on direct grey water recycling?

It would obviously impact house design as laundry water would have to flow down grade without kink, pump, or obstruction, but you might be able to get real shade trees. . .
post #14 of 18
Ok I know absolutely nothing about Utah but this is what I want. First off Utah49, I drive approximtely an hour to get to my hill so a 12 mile drive is like striking gold to me. I'd prefer a 5-10 minute drive to the slopes rather than slopeside, for the reasons you discussed. Whats a 5-10 minute drive compared to a 5-10 minute walk? My ideal ski home would be in a gated community. It would be a log home of course. There would be a hot tub indoors and a real fireplace, not one of those gas jobs. There has to be a view of the mountains from virtually every window in the house, especially from the hot tub. Of course the master bedroom would be big. But the key is a wide open living room, with a loft from which you could see the slopes through the a frame style windows. Now if only I were rich...
post #15 of 18
My ideal mountain home would be situated on 20 fenced acres. Plenty of room for my dogs and me to play. I'd build trails all over it for mountain biking in the summer and cross country skiing in the winter. My 20 acres would back up to wilderness where I could do some back country skiing. A hot tub is a must.

Currently I drive an hour and a half to my mountain, so anything up to a half hour drive would be fine.
post #16 of 18
Dude, how about a little punctuation?

Spell check wouldn't hurt either.
post #17 of 18
Solar water hydronic heating system.
Could heat your hot tub, be installed under the driveway as a snow melt system, supplemented by a propane/lpg boiler for those "no sun" days, etc.

Costs lot's less in the long run for heating the house. Enviromentally friendly, etc..

Heats the house more evenly. less dust in the house, etc..

Solar electric is also nice.

post #18 of 18
Originally posted by Taylormatt:
Utah49, don't even mess with propane heat for the tub, go electric. Today's tubs are well insulated and economical to run.
For sure! Hot tubs need to stay hot all the time, so you'll be changing propane tanks too often. And you'll want 220 Volt circuits to ensure the heating element can keep up to the demand.

At a recent hot tub demo, the tubs were run by 110 Volts. They got cool pretty quick, and took longer to reheat.

And forget solar electricity. It's by far the most expensive way to go. We checked it out for an island lot -- the solar power salesman said:

"If there is any way at all to get electricity to the island, do it. Propane powered appliances are the next best choice. Solar is by far the most expensive."
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