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post #1 of 15
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I am going to Panorama and Kicking Horse in 2 weeks. The long range forecast (not that it is ever reliable) shows pretty warm temps. Anyone have experience at these areas know the temp difference from base areas to the summits?
I know that there is a fair altitude difference from Golden to the Summit at Kicking Horse.
I am taking my son out West for the first time and am not looking forward to skiing slush.
post #2 of 15
Weather at both resorts is very unpredictable.

Panorama is likely to be icy and hard in the morning, mostly on the bottom of the hill. Depending how warm it was the days before the top could remain soft or be hard.

Panorama has a fair temperature range differance by mid day. Bottom is often warm t shirt weather, with slush and spring snow while top is colder and more standard snow conditions. This isn't always the case, sometimes the top is warm and the bottom is cooler. Depends on weather patterns.

Kicking Horse I don't have alot of experiance with but I would expect it isn't much different than Panorama except that temperatures are likely to be slightly cooler on average. Again the bottom of the hill is a fairly low elevation and you can expect soft spring slushy snow on the bottom and more standard snow up top.

Either way you will be spring skiing. Bring sun screen, sun glasses and a good ski sweater as you likely will not need a big bulky ski jacket. Not unusual for temps to reach +10 C (sometimes even higher) in the PM. A light jacket that is wind proof is best. Also bring some lighter gloves that are waterproof. Heavy insulated gloves suck in warm weather.

Be sure to remove your liners each night to dry properly or after a few days you will have soggy feet and if it does get cold, you WILL get cold feet.
post #3 of 15
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Originally Posted by booch View Post
I am taking my son out West for the first time and am not looking forward to skiing slush.
Perhaps real slurpee slush is no fun, but my favourite type of snow (dry blower powder excluded) is spring SNUSH. soft and forgiving, easy to make an edge and you can do things on that type of snow with skis you can't do on any other type of snow.
post #4 of 15

Spring Skiing at Panorama

We were out at Panorama last weekend. Spring skiing off the bottom quad , things were better off the Champagne Express. We did one run down View of 1000 peaks from the Summit Chair which was pretty good, but there are already a lot of rocks beginning to poke back through the snow. On Sunday it was raining pretty hard on the lower mountain so we did a couple of runs off Champagne and then called it quits.

I'd concentrate on the Horse if you can, I think they still have good conditions (anyone whose been there can correct me if appropriate), but I'd say Panorama is not that good a bet.

On the other hand I'm wildly optimistic about Fernie, since I just booked 3 nights from March 31 to April 3.
post #5 of 15
If you don't like the conditions, turn around and head back towards Calgary. Sunshine Village probably has the best conditions in North America (mid-winter conditions) and Lake Louise is in great shape as well.
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Originally Posted by exracer View Post
If you don't like the conditions, turn around and head back towards Calgary. Sunshine Village probably has the best conditions in North America (mid-winter conditions) and Lake Louise is in great shape as well.
I agree and concur with this statement. I've skied both this last week and had a brilliant time.
post #7 of 15
I toured a group of ski writers around last week and the first article ran in the U.K. press this weekend raving about the terrain and conditions in Banff (Sunshine Village specifically). It would be a shame for you to miss out and drive right past the best skiing in North America right now, on your way to somewhere else.

You can read it here The Times-Alberta Mountain High
post #8 of 15
^^ Interesting article, but who else can spot at least three major factual errors?
post #9 of 15
I suggest focusing on Banff versus Panorama and Kicking Horse, if only because of Sunshine's elevation. We were at Lake Louise over the weekend and it rained on Saturday, but overall conditions were pretty good even though brown was starting to show in more than one spot. If the forecasted warm temperatures materialize, Sunshine will be the only area ski hill with decent enough conditions to warrant travelling great distances.
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^^ Interesting article, but who else can spot at least three major factual errors?
No kidding. Geesh!
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Originally Posted by Eldo View Post
^^ Interesting article, but who else can spot at least three major factual errors?
Only three??? My experience with writers is that if they only have three major errors in an article then it's like winning the lottery. I cringe at the mistakes I read in articles after I've given very clear, precise interviews.

A couple of biggies were provided courtesy of the SSV rep who rode up the gondola with us at the beginning of the day. She said the SSV parking lot is higher than the top of Whistler (wrong) and that the ski area is located where two plates of the earth meet, on the continental divide (ouch). If that was true, we'd be in the middle of earthquake country... LOL.

I especially liked the one where he called Lake Louise the site of the 88 Winter Olympic ski events. The funny thing is I even drove the writer past Nakiska and talked about the Olympics, and yet it came out as Lake Louise in the article. Maybe he got confused when I was talking about the early season men's and women's World Cup races that are hosted annually at Lake Louise. Go figure. :
post #12 of 15
Clearly he should be introduced to my good friend the notepad(or for those more uppity on the technology: blackberry, voice recorder, laptop)

The annoying things about writers is they generally don't care if they get it right as long as it sounds realistic and makes a good story. Really calls into question everything else you read imo.
post #13 of 15
I just got back from skiing Lake Louise and Kicking Horse.

Conditions were great! Very much still winter conditions for the most part. We got about a meter of snow last week.

Word on the street was that the more southern mountains, Fernie etc., were getting more rain than snow; but that the more northern peaks were still in great shape.

I expect that LL, Sunshine, Kicking Horse, etc. are going to be in great shape for some time to come!
post #14 of 15
I skied Panorama 2 years ago after warm conditions. All the main slopes were incredibly icy (I mean very very icy and most closed). Then we discovered Tayton Bowl. Where most of the main trails were gone on the back side there was powder and lots of nice mid winter snow. The skiing in the back sides is amazing!

Mike
post #15 of 15
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I expect that LL, Sunshine, Kicking Horse, etc. are going to be in great shape for some time to come!
The rule of thumb is that Lake Louise and Kicking Horse begin to deteriorate very quickly after March. Sunshine Village generally has full coverage until the end of May when they traditionally close regardless of conditions.
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