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Most influential person in skiing history

post #1 of 86
Thread Starter 
I'm still pretty new here so I don't know if there has been another thread on something like this but I haven't seen one. What person do you think has had the most influence in making skiing what it is today?
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post #3 of 86
I hate to disagree with you, but unles by saying "me" you meant "me" and not "you", then you are incorrect.
And I shall prove it:
We live in the Internet age, where global communities are formed and information is the master.
Therefore whoever dispenses the most information to the biggest global audience is obviously the answer to the question.
Now, who is the most prolific poster on the best global internet ski forum?
The answer is right in front of you!

post #4 of 86
I'll be serious, mo. Sondre Norheim is your man.
post #5 of 86
The person who invented skiing thousands of years ago gets my vote.
post #6 of 86
Come on now!!

It's not a man!!

It's Mother Nature! [img]tongue.gif[/img]
post #7 of 86

edit: with Bob Beattie right there behind him.

edit: then Suzy Chaffee.

edit: followed closely by Bonni.

[ October 15, 2003, 07:38 AM: Message edited by: ryan ]
post #8 of 86
Skiing means many things to many people, but I'm gonna stick my neck out in terms of pinning it down to just a couple o people who have had most influence on what skiing means to me.

Unfortunately can't pin it down to one person so my vote goes with...
Skier -Glen Plake
I'd always wanted to ski and seeing his deeds of dare and importantly DO in Blizzard of Ahhs at the same time as I retuned from my first ever time on skis has certainly shaped the way I have developed as a skier. The way his aproach to skiing i.e. backcountry, moguls, slow tricks, big lines, seeking out the esoteric has developed over the years has also been cool.

Was lucky enough to follow him down a couple of runs at Targhee -the guy can certainly ski on those long boards! and judging by the crowd of both adults and kids that mobbed him he's certainly had an impact on more people than just myself.

Racer- Alan Baxter
'e was robbed! Just goes to show that although us Brits are perhaps more renound for our Apres...when we put our minds to it we can shred with the best! He also gets the vote on the strenght of not being a southern nancy like far too many of our racers in the past.

Film Maker -Greg Stump
Although I only started skiing at the time Stump was emerging as a leading maker, his ability to capture and communicate the 'New Wave' was unmatched at the time and has influenced both the way films are made today and through his films, the aspirations of many, many skiers.

Skiing /Adventure Travel

* forgot to mention the Lunn family in my original posting. Right there at the start of downhill skiing and the originators of packaged travel...ever heard of Lunn Poly. Sir Arnold's son Peter is into his 80's now but still skiing and racing the Inferno (the world's longest downhill race). Way to go.

[ October 16, 2003, 12:05 AM: Message edited by: freshtracks ]
post #9 of 86
Skiing in the early to mid 60's..to see.."plastic" "buckle" boots..replace leather lace ups..plastic..fiberglass..and metal..skiis and their various combinations.."step in" bindings..
All this stuff just took off then..
New techniques emerged..and had to..
The Olympics..and "paid" sports/atheletes..were still far apart..

Killy..was there at that time..whether leading..or just riding the wave..he was RIGHT ON TOP of it!..
Involved in all of it..I think it was 68 when he won the 3 golds..

Entire books were written about his..this "new" technique..
He was flamboyant..making NO BONES about it..he was aggressive and made it quite clear that atheletes..not the dour Olympic stage..but Pro atheletes..could be great..AND have fame/AND fortune..pour into the sport.Sure he was..I guess..called crass..for his aggressively advertising for GM(Corvettes)..I think in 68/9..as well as others..

I think he was a great statesman for the sport..and money/recogniton poured into it..after him.The sport seemed "better"..A LOT!..right around that time..almost everyone..Like it or not..the money meant development/progress..more racing programs..advertising..business..etc..etc..

Get's my vote..
post #10 of 86
My short list:

Alf Engen - Surveyed around 31 ski areas for the USFS, "The Father of the Powder Technique."

Scott Schmitt - The pro that todays pros admired yesterday.

Glen Plake - yep

Johney Mosely - annoys the crap out of me, but in one swift move in the 1998 Winter Olympics brought skiing into the mainstream media, bringing young kids to skiing, and boosting declining skier days.

Alberto Tomba - Brought sex and partying back to skiing.

The men of the 10th Mountain Division - http://www.10thmtndivassoc.org/chronology.html
post #11 of 86
posted by ryan:

Member # 489

posted October 15, 2003 07:12 AM

edit: with Bob Beattie right there behind him.

edit: then Suzy Chaffee.

edit: followed closely by Bonni.
Isnt' the truth refreshing? [img]tongue.gif[/img]
post #12 of 86
Killy is number 1. No argument there.

Runners up should definitely include:

The men of the 10th Mountain Division

Les Otten. Whether you like him or hate him, he revolutionized skiing in the the Northeast with his destination resort developments.

Charlie Lord for what he accomplished at Stowe.

Phil and Steve Mahre for getting everyone pumped about the sport in the 80s.

Here's a wildcard:

The Earl of Kandahar :

In 1879, an English officer, Frederick Roberts, rescued the besieged garrison of British troops in Kandahar. He was subsequently knighted with the title “Earl of Kandahar.” In 1911, Roberts, who was an avid skier donated a cup to be awarded to the winner of the Kandahar race. Since then, the event has been known as the “Arlberg-Kandahar” race.

There's also a famous trail named after him at Garmisch-Partenkirchen.

The earl is partly responsible for getting the English speaking world charged up about the sport at the turn of the century.
post #13 of 86
Eddie the Eagle
post #14 of 86
My 2 cents

Jean Claude Killy

Stein Ericksen

Billy Kidd

and though he never really existed David Chapplett (Robert Redford/Downhill Racer)


Live easy, ski hard
post #15 of 86
George Joubert
post #16 of 86
Originally posted by DB:
Eddie the Eagle
Heard an interview with Eddie on Public Radio the other day. Funny guy.
post #17 of 86
As much as the people have done for the sport/art of skiing, I think credit must be given to the continued development of material science, and the advances in ski equipment that have resulted. I believe many individuals have helped propel the sport forward, but most were combined with some improvement in equipment that made it easier for the masses to imitate the pros.

That said, the members of the 10th Mountain Div are at the top of my list, followed by Scott Schmitt, Doug Combs, and Glen Plake for pushing the boundaries and Johnny Mosely for opening up new audiences. I've also enjoyed Stump's films, but I can't believe no one had mentioned Warren Miller. Anybody who has been bringing us ski films for 50+ years deserves a mention.

post #18 of 86
Howard Head

The inventor of the modern Alpine ski as we know it. Good story:


post #19 of 86
Killy, definately.

Another vote for the Mahre brothers and Billy Kidd.

Franz Klammer.

Spider Sabich, who unfortunately was taken at the peak of his career.

Stein Erickson.

Extreme Skiing: Plake for sure.

(Bob?)Lange, with leaving those freezing cold and unsupportive leather boots behind.
post #20 of 86
Originally posted by Lisamarie:
George Joubert
"Garcon...I'll have the bouef with a side of avalement"

Sitting back...what's that?

[ October 15, 2003, 02:12 PM: Message edited by: irul&ublo ]
post #21 of 86
Film: (M)Warren Miller (HC)Greg Stump

Warren brought ski movies into American homes, Greg Stump brought them into dorm rooms.

Skier: (U.S.)(M) The Mahre Bros. (HC)Scot Schmidt

The Mahre bros were American Idols with Olympic victories. Scott Brought skiing off of the slopes and opened up the rest of teh mountain.

Industry: (M) Georg Salomon (HC) Bobbie Burns (The Ski)

Salomon started with a small tool shop that made edges to a full service company that started revolutions in everything they offered. Bindings: 727, first toe peice with upward compensation and intergrated brake. Boots: SX90, First front entry boot to be taked seriously and run on a World Cup course. Ski: S9000, First Monocoque design and a sizing system (PR) based on "type of ski".

Bobbie was there for the Freeski revolution in the 70's with "The SKI"

(M)= Mainstream
(HC)= Hardcore

Winner: Whoever invented Raichles Flexon 5, the most influential and important boot in ski history!!! [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img]

[ October 15, 2003, 02:19 PM: Message edited by: Phil Pugliese ]
post #22 of 86
Professor Hopplicher for the modern Austrian Technique

Glen Plake for ripping it up around the world

Jake Burton for nuturing mainstream Snowboarding

Lately it has been the The Down Jones Index, Osama Bin Laden and GWB.
post #23 of 86
I'll go back a bit further:

The Lapps (ok, not a single person)

Sondre Norheim

Hannes Schneider

And, in contention for the Ig-Nobel award this year in skiing, we have:

Mr. Stem Christie,

Frau. Bag Bogner, and finally,

Mr. Frank Covino, author of the classic, self-published, tongue-in-cheek ski novel, "Snowballing, Diary of a Ski Instructor" [img]graemlins/evilgrin.gif[/img]
...sigh ... if only what he promised were true... (but it did kindle many a young man's affair with skiing & ski instruction).

[ October 15, 2003, 02:46 PM: Message edited by: PhysicsMan ]
post #24 of 86
Here is a name that many have never heard of (some have), that made many significant contributions to the sport, ROGER F. LANGLEY. I am currently working on a piece about him that I hope to have published one of these days so I do not want to give too much away right now.

Roger F. Langley never entered a ski race. He didn't even consider himself a good skier. Yet perhaps, he did more than most people when it comes to putting Americans on skis. Edward C. Newell said in the November 1954 issue of the American Ski Annual and Skiing Journal, that Roger Langley was" ... the most prominent name in American ski history..."

BTW: Roger's nickname was "Mr. SKI" I know about him and his many accomplishments because he was my elementary school principal, lived in my neighborhood and was a good friend's grandfather.
post #25 of 86
How about Lowell Thomas, the newscaster that helped popularize skiing in the 40s? And the Harriman that decreeded a western ski resort to populate his railroad
post #26 of 86
Hannes Schneider. This Austrian kid taught himself to ski and then learned how to teach others, exporting his methods around the world. He showed people that skiing did not only belong to a few Norwegian and Austrian locals but instead could be learned and enjoyed by the multitudes.
post #27 of 86
Thought I'd just throw out a few names:

Whoever invented plastic ski boots.

Mel Dalebout (Daleboot)

Willy Sheffler
post #28 of 86
Also Hal Oleary of the National Sports Center for the Disabled.
post #29 of 86
Who made skiing "what it is today?"

Lowell Thomas, who popularized skiing in the USA.

Mrs. Bogner, who made it fun to watch, even if you didn't actually ski [img]graemlins/evilgrin.gif[/img]

Howard Head, who designed skis they called "cheaters".

Bill Irwin [sp?] of Elan, whose ideas on shape and length have REALLY made skiing "what it is today".
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