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Edge file guide for little tuning?

post #1 of 8
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I am a bit apprehensive to just run the file along the ski without a guide, for fear of ruining the edge angles. Is it important to get a guide for those little tuneups (I take my skis in to have the pros do their thing annually)?

Also, what are the most important tools to have for small jobs like this? I was thinking of getting a medium diamond stone for nicks in the edge, and a gummi for polishing. That's what seems to be standard form what little I've read here. Could I use a finer grit of diamond for polishing even? I'm trying not to break the bank here (although the skis themselves really got that job done alone)
post #2 of 8
All you need is a edge beveler like the 1301 (better) or 1329 model shown on this link, a 70 mm blue DMT stone or yellow moonflex (don't worry about a polishing stone) and a gummi, about $40 - $65 total depending on the combo you pick. The 1301 was the first tool I bought 11 years ago and I still use it.
post #3 of 8
Get the proper edge angle guide for your edges before you file them. I have a metal one that you slide along the base with the file/stone clamped in with a little spring clamp. You really hold the file on, but the clamp helps position it.
post #4 of 8
Isn't that a strange twist The guy that sells the stuff (me) is suggesting not to buy more.

I contend that the average Joe can't tell the difference between a single angle file guide that costs $20-$80 for each angle and a tool that can deliver all the angles you will ever need for one cost of $20-$40. I sense that all this guy wants to have are sharp edges without having to go to the shop each time and is not super analytical like many serious tuners here. There is nothing wrong with being a tuning tech, but if it isn't in you there is no need to over spend. I understand the argument that you may be spending money on the multi-tool, then get into it only to decide you want single angle tools for more money; if you think you might get into it, then yes, start investing in precision tools. But, there is no need to make the guy who just needs a Kia to get around town at 20 MPH buy a Porsche because it is better performance.

I spent $30 11 years ago on one tool and it is fine for me (an average skier that just likes to have fun carving on the slopes). An angle is an angle and if it is off by 0.1-0.2 degrees I will never know the difference.
post #5 of 8
I agree, Dr. D. The multi-tool's versatility is a good way for anyone to get into tuning and may be all that's needed for many. Not only can you set multiple angles for side bevels, but sharpen and polish sidewalls & base bevels. The more you sharpen and polish, the more you might appreciate an additional guide or two (base and/or side edge). By then you'll know which one(s) will be needed for your skis and preferences. The multi-tool would still be useful for a variety of tasks, including scraper sharpening.

Likewise with stones and diamonds, you can always buy more later.
post #6 of 8
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Originally Posted by Alpinord View Post
The multi-tool would still be useful for a variety of tasks, including scraper sharpening.
How would you use this for scraper sharpening?
post #7 of 8
If you place a coarse. or better yet, panzer file (T4B Razor without the pegs) in the side edge position of the guide and set at 0°, you can either place it in a vise or by hand, run the scraper over the file supported against the side by the guide. It's very much like the dedicated sharpeners I've seen posted by others.

Personally, I find placing a 12" body/panzer file in my bench vise the easiest and quickest, but the above method works fine if you need to economize. A shorter panzer works well also.
post #8 of 8
Thanks.
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