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Help find women/unisex skis: bumps & carves

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After some years in the warm climate, I move back into the icy northeast. And got right back into skiing. Boy, I missed it so much!

I've been demo-ing skis and then it hit me. I had liked bumps even back when everyone was skiing those straight long boards. Now, with the shorter skis, I like them even more!

Up to this point, I've been thinking I need cruising skis with firm edge hold, believing I need them to deal with the icy slope of the northeast. But I'm just starting to think differently: I don't really LIKE cruising on the ice anyway. I do it because it's there and I was forced to deal with it. Shouldn't I aim for a ski that's good at what I LIKE to ski instead?

Given bumps and ice demands different characters of skis. So if I can find a good ski on the bumps that's also good on ice, great. If not, I'd still rather have a ski that's good at handling bumps because that's where I'll be spending my time enjoying the day anyway. And I'll just had to deal with the ice when I had to, as long as I can make it down safely, that is. Right? What do you guys think about my reasoning?

Oh yes, carving when the snow is soft is also great fun, too! I like that. So a ski that carves well would be fun to have. Though I have no clue if that goes well with handling of bumps or not.

With that kind of thinking in mind, I'm looking for a short list of candidate ski that are your basic all mountain planks that carving well AND also with an edge on the bumps. If they can deal with ice, great. But that's really an after thought. Do this kind of ski exist?

Skier: female, 5'4, 110lb. semi-aggressive (more so in the bumps). Middle age but fit and athletic. Been skiing for 10~15 years, give or take.

Terrain: Looking to do medium size bumps, sometimes icy ones, say 50% of the time. The rest would be cruising AND CARVING when the snow is soft and slope empty. Had to deal with icy condition when need to. Takes one trip or so each year, either out west or to Europe.

Skis I've tried but didn't quite like:

Salomon Siam: Don't like the fatness under foot.
Dynastar Exclusive 10: works but not great, feels kind of dead/dull.
K2 Burning Luv: Totally mis-guided direction since it's a fast cruiser. Way too stiff for the bumps.

Skis I've tried and kind of like:

K2 One Luv: this was the best of the bunch so far but I had it for too short a time, also in the wrong condition that day (heavy, untracked powder!).

Rossi RocX: Now this is a run-of-the-mill rental for intermediates when my ski was in the shop for an over-dued tuning. But hey, I'm just an advance (i.e. glorified) intermediate when it comes to bumps anyway. The ski carves well, turns well, and snakes through bumps like a rabbit on a mission! I'm pretty darn sure it's probably "too soft" for any self-respecting advanced skiers. But maybe that's what I need -- a soft ski?

So far, I've only demo-ed women skis. But I don't want to limit myself to women skis. The crappy rental was a unisex ski and I enjoyed it as much, almost more than the more "advanced" and "women-specific" skis! So, I want to try other skis even if they're not "women-specific" as long as they're good all-mountain skis that would be easy to ski on bumps. My only consideration would be since I'm quite light in weight and not very tall, many unisex skiis might be too stiff for me after all (especially the more "advanced" models ). Further more, I may or may not find unisex skis short enough for me (I skied 150-155 in those women's)?
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post #3 of 14
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Ooops! I should add: list of ski to try on, not yet to bid on.
post #4 of 14
Add the Dynastar Exclusive Carve, and the Volkl Attiva S4.

SJ
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Volkl Attiva AC2 is an excellent All Mountain Bump Ski

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Originally Posted by at_nyc View Post
.....list of ski to try on....
Hi nyc,

My wife, who is 5' 2" and 135 lbs, loves her 156cm Volkl Attiva AC2s. It’s a woman specific ski that is 20% lighter and 20% softer than the unisex model. She is an aggressive skier who looks for bumps, powder and carved turns on the groomers in that order of preference. This is her second season on the ski and it’s enhanced her skill set and raised her comfort level in all the myriad conditions that the ski excels in. I think you’d be doing yourself a favor by giving this ski a try.

Thanks,

Michael
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Originally Posted by SierraJim View Post
Add the Dynastar Exclusive Carve, and the Volkl Attiva S4.

SJ
Thanks Jim, for the suggestion. I heard good things about the Exclusive Carve somewhere so definitely on the target list. I initially didn't persuit the Volkl Attiva S4 because one of the "Gear Guides" rated it "bumps not its strong suite". But I might still give it a try if I get a chance.
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I just picked up a set of Atomic B:11's off Ebay for 299.00 wit bindings in a 150. She is 5'4", advanced and weighs around 120lbs. I this ski has a 11mm turn radious and has an extreme shape to it. This is part of their Balanaze line of women skis. The Siam 8 is also another great ski but I couldn't find a deal on them.
post #8 of 14
AH HA!
Now you know the reason a Chick needs a quiver!!!

Go ahead get a cruiser! And get a bump ski!

I was actually thinking of trying a Volkl Dogen for a bump ski, but hadn't really heard much feedback on it. The Rebellion is the Volkl bump specific ski! Something tells me its worth a try.

For my day to day I've been skiing on the volkl Karma in bumps, not ideal but it works better in the bumps than some of my other skis, and yet the Karma will carry the speed and play time for me when I'm not in the bumps.

My bump specific ski is "The Ski"
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Surprised you don't like the Burning Luv in the bumps. A friends wife loves the ski. She's 5' 105lbs. When we all ski bumps we let her go first because she will beat us done anyways. We ski the whole mountain. She has no problem going any where the big boy's go.

The Dynastar Exclusive may be another ski you should try.

Will the Attiva 2 handle speed? It did get the highest scores of any ski in Ski Magazines test.
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Review of Volkl Rebellion

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Originally Posted by trekchick View Post
AH HA!
Now you know the reason a Chick needs a quiver!!!.....The Rebellion is the Volkl bump specific ski! Something tells me its worth a try.....

Hi trekchick,

Here is my experience using the Volkl Rebellion:

http://forums.epicski.com/showthread.php?t=53686

It would be great to see women tearing up the bumps with this ski!:

Thanks,

Michael
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Originally Posted by michaelsnead View Post
Hi trekchick,

Here is my experience using the Volkl Rebellion:

http://forums.epicski.com/showthread.php?t=53686

It would be great to see women tearing up the bumps with this ski!:

Thanks,

Michael
Love the review Michael!
All I have to say is WHooooooo Hoooooo! Another ski to add to my quiver!!!
post #12 of 14
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Max Capacity View Post
Surprised you don't like the Burning Luv in the bumps. A friends wife loves the ski. She's 5' 105lbs. When we all ski bumps we let her go first because she will beat us done anyways. We ski the whole mountain. She has no problem going any where the big boy's go.

The Dynastar Exclusive may be another ski you should try.

Will the Attiva 2 handle speed? It did get the highest scores of any ski in Ski Magazines test.
Probably depending on HOW one takes the bumps too. I like to flow via the "slow line" instead of the zipper line. So, I found the Burning Luv a bit too stiff for me.

I asked the shop about trying the shorter length of it but they didn't think it was such a hot idea. Nor does my instructor. So I decided to move on to different ones. The One Luv is the softer version of Burning. So that's one of my candidates.

I tried the Dynastar Exclusive 10. It does work OK but I found it kind of dull, not a lot of snap in the bumps.

The Volkl is the one brand I heard a lot of recommendation but have yet to try. It's high on my "hit list".
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Michael, love your description of your mogul syle: "I, on the other hand, enjoy more ski to snow contact. My image of fun bump skiing looks like hot fudge sliding its way down the troughs of a bump filled vanilla ice cream mountain." :-)

I've been wondering to myself as to WHAT makes a good bump ski. Obviously, taking a shorter GS stick into the bumps isn't. But besides a softer flex and a bit more lively manner. What about side cut, waist width etc? Or is it more personal at that point?
post #14 of 14
A lot of it is personal preference, but there are, of course, properties to a ski that lend to its nature toward specific ski tactics.

I tend to think of a bump ski as something that has a wider waist than a slalom ski, but less than a mid fat, (mid 70's ?),somewhat light weight, and soft enough to be forgiving.

"The Ski" is such a ski, but it doesn't necessarily make me happy when I'm playing around, skiing groomers, and playing in the trees. In Bumps its tops.
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